Podcast – Episode 0021 – Enneagram Personality Types

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In this podcast Joel and Antonia talk about Enneagram Personality Types.

In this podcast you’ll find:

  • This podcast episode talks about the Enneagram personality typology with Ms. Kelly Crowther, as a special guest.
  • The Enneagram is deeper and more into the emotional realm, it’s a blueprint in the fundamental strategy. It can open the doors to getting yourself ready to transcend your personality or making relationships better.
  • Ennea – means ‘nine’ in Greek. Gram – denotes its symbol – a circle with a three-pointed triangle. There are 9 personality types, each one is striving to be something different.
  1. Striving for Perfection. Lower form – can be a perfectionists. Higher form – achieves serenity and balance.
  2. Striving to have Emotional connections. Lower form – tends to give in order to get. Higher form – giving is very generous.
  3. Striving to be Outstanding. Lower form – tend to be very much conscious of their image and how people are reflecting it back to them. Higher form – looking for achievement and more credentials in order to feel worthy to others in the world.
  4. Striving to find a unique identity in the world. Lower form – they keep themselves separate. Higher form – they understand the human drama and they can be non-judgmental. They can generally accept at wherever you are in your personal space.
  5. Striving to be detached or non-attached. Lower form – Antisocial. They hide away and very protective of their own energy because they feel that they want to keep it for themselves. Higher form – can be great objective reflections of the world, they can get to truth easily.
  6. Looking for Security in the world. Lower form – Experiences paranoia in the world. Higher form – stepping into the role of leadership
  7. Looking for Freedom and Excitement. Lower form – tends to stay away from their problems. High – experiences an expression of pure joy.
  8. Looking for Power. Lower form – tends to abuse power. Higher form – executes the right amount and type of power to get the best results.
  9. Looking for Peace. Lower form -they absorb and reflect back all of the other types and that can look like laziness. Higher form – can look at all sides and mediate different aspects.
  • Each of these types can get a little bit corrupted as they continue to strive. It colors their behavior and that’s where it can start to become a strategy.
  • The theory is that we’re all of the Enneagram types and there’s a part of each one in us.
  • You need to analyze and look where it goes and where your tendency is on your flow state.
  • Pema Chodron talks about Shenpa and it’s when you catch yourself in the act of getting hooked.
  • What is the major advantage to seeking more information on the Enneagram? Most of us don’t operate on our higher levels.
  • Our Enneagram type defines as to where we get hooked, what and why it’s triggering us.
  • Knowing your Enneagram type will help you make a better version of yourself.
  • Helpful for us to analyze and make better decisions.

Visual references:

Enneagram Personality Types


Things we reference in this podcast:

Kelly Crowther’s The Enneagram Depot


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  • Dena

    Hey Joel and Antonia,
    I have a hard time to trace the connection or even disconnection (agreement/disagreement) between enneagram and MBTI personality types. I as ENTJ would always want to help my clan and be in power and would want work to be done in my way, doesn’t this automatically make me a type 8/1? Or isn’t an INTJ automatically a type 1 (perfectionist)?

  • Leslie

    The link at Kelly’s page for the Ennegram PDF file is broken. Is there another link you can recommend with a test to learn our specific Ennegram score?

  • Kate

    Hi Joel and Antonia! First of all, thank you so much for your site – you two go so wonderfully in depth, to an extent that I think is unmatched by any other online source I’ve come across.

    I just discovered the world of Enneagrams and find it fascinating. I’m an ENFP and a type 6, and it’s actually kind of a relief to know why I don’t fit perfectly into the typical ENFP model. I kept wondering if I was actually an INFP!

    Apparently the ENFP type 6 is an unusual combination, and I’ve been having a really hard time finding any resources geared toward that specific type. So I was ecstatic to find this podcast and hear that Joel is also an ENFP type 6! Yay, I’m not the only one! 🙂

    Do you have any advice for ENFPs who are also a type 6, or could you recommend any resources so I can read up on it? I’m interested in how the type 6 aspect affects my personal growth as an ENFP and the things I need to “work on” for my development. I’d love to hear your thoughts on this. Thanks!

  • Frederick

    Guys, why did you removed the ability to comment new podcast episodes? 🙁

    • Antonia Dodge

      Hey, Frederick! No clue why the most recent podcast disabled comments. We’ve set the default to allowing them, so something went wiggy.

      At any rate, I’ve just fixed it. Thanks for pointing it out, and comment away. 🙂


  • Frederick

    Joel are you an ENFP, right?

    My ex girlfriend was an ENFP too and she has walls covered with pictures of friends, family and i always thought she was a memory person but she is not, she’s for sure an exploration type (she definitely explored a lot of beds).

    I’m tendo to be like Antonia, the less things i have around the happier i am.

    BTW speaking of enneagram i’m a type 4

    • Joel Mark Witt

      Yep. I am an ENFP. If you’re ex-girlfriend is an ENFP then “Memory” would be also be apart of her personality. It would just be something that is a blind spot for her.

      • Frederick

        Joel, I forgot to ask you a question. Since you said that basically the exploration function asks “what if” does that mean that people who their driver is exploration are also “difference” people? Do they need always to try new stuff and changing things for the sake of changing things?

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