Podcast – Episode 0242 – Why People Fear Success

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In this episode, Joel and Antonia explore the reasons why people fear success and what we can do about it.

 

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In this episode Joel and Antonia explore the reasons why people fear success and what we can do about it. #podcast #fearsuccess #personalgrowth

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  • Christine
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    a) what do I really deserve

    b) what really strikes me here is that you have attached to succes much negative images. But success can not only mean being a prisoner of ones business but you might get more freedom, more choices. It must not only mean being targeted but also beinfg seen more, meet more people that are helping, are enthusiastic whatever. its also depednign on the vision. if its a negative one, then no wonder you subconsciously push it away.

    but success can cause much more feedom and much joy, happyness and appreciation and those people whos businesses are big often have much freedom for example. also the thing with “then I am stuck in that business” why? if you have more ressources ist so much easier to quit (sell or whatever) and do the next thing. some live it this way and thats ok also and they can do what is natural to them,. as long as you label success with negative aspects who always have an excuse to not really go for it.

    it felt like: no, we better talk ourselves out of it.

    c) I dont master this neitehr yet 😉 😛

  • Emilie
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    What is stopping me, to answer your question, Joel, is

    1) Fear of failure.But I am taking good care of my self esteem issues 😉

    2) As quoted, fear of losing my freedom

    Thank you both for this inspiring session.
    Em

  • Of course I think it’s important to go through this questioning, I’m going through it myself. I do hope that if your business grows to be huge, that you will be able to maintain unity that you created.
    Reply

    I’m in the midst of listening to this podcast. Your success/fear of failure definitely resonates for me. Perhaps she’ll get to this later in the podcast, but I’m wondering how you define success. I would say the reason I think your podcast is set apart from others, is because I would never think to me and feel comfortable and like I knew some of the other successful podcast or‘s that you mentioned. The two of you are so involved in your community of listeners, that I almost feel like you’re part of my family Of course I think it’s important to go through this questioning, I’m going through it myself. I do hope that if your business grows to be huge, that you will be able to maintain unity that you created.

  • Johno
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    I just went back and discovered that former comments I’ve left have in fact posted

    I am really surprised because the experience of posting a comment on your website feels like a big fat zero. If you’re going to wait to post comments till they’ve been reviewed let me know when I submit that it’s been submitted and will be reviewed. But I don’t understand why you would do this. Far better to let people contribute and erase the garbage later.

    Because half the reason we want to post is to burn off that opportunistic energy that builds up when we see someone seeming successful and accessible. When i don’t see my comment post it feels like a big miss, like a huge letdown.

    Consider a change. I just think you clearly need a place to channel your users energy and a more functional forum is a solid solution. Otherwise the sense of being surrounded by opportunists will … persist.

  • JOHNO
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    Sometimes I try to comment many times and it just doesn’t work, I really struggle with your website and I’m a millennial who works in technology. I really wish you guys would create a forum, I think it would give your audience a place to spend opportunistic impulses, which would prevent them from exhausting you. When people seem both successful and accessible like you guys do, you’re bound to get a lot of that opportunistic energy thrust at you. What you resist persists, I think you guys have some kind of a complex about the opportunism, it’s OK to let people contribute, and then to crush them when they turn out to be snakes. It’s OK to vacuum up the value from your audience if they’ll give it to you for free, it’s OK to charge people just to talk to you, charge people a monthly fee just to be on your forum, six bucks a month, 10 bucks a month, it will generate a steady stream of revenue. Look at what they did at stellarmaz what you resist persists, I think you guys have some kind of a complex about the opportunism, it’s OK to let people contribute, and then to crush them when they turn out to be snakes. It’s OK to vacuum up the value from your audience if they’ll give it to you for free, it’s OK to charge people just to talk to you, charge people a monthly fee just to be on your forum, six bucks a month, 10 bucks a month, it will generate a steady stream of revenue.

    I’m dictating this message because I get too frustrated by how often my comments don’t work on your site, and I’m not going to edit it to make it seem more useful than probably will be. Again because I get so pissed off at your website.

    BRenee Brown is always going to be useless shit. Tim Ferris is always going to be useless shit. You two Are doing way too serious of work to become that popular, which is to say you’re taking the ethical route, (at least from an ENTP perspective given that I tend to conflate ethics with Ti or perhaps almost derive ethics from Ti). Sometimes extroverted intuition doesn’t embrace enough fatalism, but it’s true that you guys are not an ESTP, so you’ll never be Tim Ferris, and you’re not INFPs, so you’ll never be able to ride on the strength of your own insights forever and ever giving not a fuck about whether you’re objectively right or not.

    You are obviously highly performing Ne doms and it’s been super impressive these past three years since I started listening religiously to your stuff. The Gods podcasts were life changing for some people I know. You are crushing it with quality.

    I was happy to hear Antonius say on his podcast “and I’m going to do it anyway.” I think that being very successful is a huge sacrifice, it’s not just lonely, it’s incredibly self sacrificial. So I think that’s very brave.

    But you guys need to Turn anything you can over to more NTJ’s. Do what nii says as fast as you can. Do what doesn’t scale. Charge people to talk to you. Charge a lot. And please find an intj to create a forum and administer it for you so your audience has a place to blow off steam—this thing that feels to you like opportunistic angling. Don’t use Facebook, use discourse. Charge money just to be there.

    Love you, thanks for all the work you do.

    • Wren
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      Hey Johno,

      I think Joel and Antonia see the “Intuitive Awakening” Facebook group as their forum. There is definitely a lot of discussion there. I wonder what you see as a benefit of an actual forum over that? Is FB too big? Or not anonymous enough?

      I think Stellar Maze is a very different model from what PH is trying to do. I find SM values purity and exclusivity more, while PH values accessibility and expansion more. Stellar Maze has a more close knit community for sure, but I bet its reach is far less. I’ve actually been impressed by the community that has formed in the IA group considering how many people are supposed to be in it.

  • Phillip Jacobs
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    As a former petroleum engineer in corporate America and prisoner that went through therapeutic community program. You have to define success for yourself and not what the outside world wants. At least how you percieve. Trust yourself and defend yourself. Listen to assholes. Getting under your skin can get you to reflect on why your letting it affect you and it makes you stronger on a mental level. Life coaches will blow smoke up your ads and you will not grow. It makes you feel good in short term. Don’t be afraid to fail no one’s perfect. Phillip Jacobs

  • Dana S.
    Reply

    As always, thank you for unpacking this topic. Listening to your discussion around the Struggles of Success is bringing up a lot of gratitude for me around the guides, mentors, and fail-ers (not quite the same as ‘failures’) that have all been teachers in my life. Some of them are no longer here with me, literally or figuratively, but that doesn’t diminish the impact of the lessons they shared.

    I think it’s Oprah who refers to “losing oxygen” as part of journey to, and through, success. It certainly does feel lonely at times. Speaking of Oprah, I don’t mean to be sassy, but aren’t you already bigger than Brene Brown right now? I’m not a math whiz but last I checked there is only one of her and there are TWO of you!

    So-called metrics are fertile ground for confirmation bias anyway, so let’s focus on what matters right now. I am sharing this episode with a friend immediately. And another one tomorrow. Cheers to your continued success from the Corn Belt!

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