Podcast – Episode 0351 – Dealing With Lookalike Personality Types

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In this episode, Joel and Antonia talk about lookalike personality types and share principles on how to decide between them.

 

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  • TN
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    I am curious what you think about Objective Personality? On their view, the types aren’t cut and dry and en-p could be like an estimated or esfj if they use their tertiary a lot. They also seem to hold the view that this isn’t unhealthy necessarily, some types have a well developed tertiary if they are socially oriented as e—p or could be traditional e—p types and focus more on their introverted decider. I think presenting this as being something really clear and mistaken if you don’t get it “right” isn’t as clear cut on this theory.

  • IxTx?
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    It would probably be really helpful to have some kind of digital version – podcast episodes, or video if necessary – of these “embodiment exercises” of the 8 functions, that Joel talks about, if that is possible, and doesn’t ruin your business model.

    Also, great that you mentioned the principle of mistyping being spread through people describing “their” type as their type on forums and similar. I think that’s the primary reason I’m not sure of my type yet – when I think i have it almost nailed down, I find a set of conflicting information and can’t know which is the correct one.

  • Anja
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    As always very interesting episode – thanks for sharing all your knowledge.
    I have never been in doubt about my own type but meet a lot of people who are – specifically they’ll tell me that they change between being an extrovert and an introvert. Have you made an episode talking about this somewhere?
    Before figuring out my type (INFJ) I always struggled with knowing if I was an introvert or extrovert but finding my type helped me see where on the spectrum I was. I wish to point the ones I meet who flip-flop in the right direction but they don’t seem convinced by my explanation and so I thought It would be helpful to point them to a podcast episode or an article of yours.

  • Sofie
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    INTJ here and I found it a very interesting podcast. I also doubted about my type. Because my Fi is well developed. I thought for a long time I was an INFJ, because I’m sensitve and emphatic.

  • Justine G
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    I have a gut feeling that I am more feeler than thinker, and most like INFP, but I think logic is very important *used at the right times*. I aspire to be great at systems and logic actually, as I always fear I am useless and stupid. I spent years training to be a computer programmer, only to gradually realise this was the wrong career, partly as I only like ‘high level’ logic and am not ‘technically’ minded. It now seems that what I actually wanted was to have a ‘thinker-ish’ role in a ‘feeler-ish’ environment.

    I’m not exactly an ‘earth child’ or whatever the stereotype around IxFPs is/are, and due to my negative childhood experiences feel the need to put out an appearance of being both ‘thinker-ish’ and romantically unattractive. But I seem very focused on mentally playing around with alternative conceptions of self and this pre-dates any interest in typology.

    While I don’t think INFP is a great fit, the other types are an even worse fit.

  • Anne-Sofie
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    Hey guys. Great and interesting podcast. I am struggling to find my type (Isfp, Infj, Infp or Enfp) – for me, the testing out the different “energies” each function requires (for you to use) would be enormously helpful.
    I live in Denmark and hence haven’t got the opportunity to participate in your live programs (unless a spend a lot of money getting to the US) so could you make an online version of it – maybe even an online instruction video, so you can access it with time delay? For me, the big issue is the self assessment and at this point some practical demonstration would really be the most usefull.

  • Jim
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    Greetings Joel and Antonia!

    ENTP here, and I do believe I’m an ENxP for certain, but often debate internally which Judgment Axis really sits in my core (maybe I’m an ENFP). Any insights on how to determine this would be greatly appreciated.

    Also, I bought and read your book, I really enjoy and appreciate how it lays out a cohesive and complete spectrum of the individual functions per their place in one’s stack/car model. However, I do often mull over one design detail and figure I should ask you guys about it since you wrote it.

    When you talk about each function within a type you reuse the same descriptions where they’re in the same point of the ‘stack/car model’.

    Example: ‘Dom/Driver Ni’ for INTJ and INFJ.
    So for both instances where you mention Ni at this magnitude: “In this detached space, it becomes easy to jump into the perspective of others.” should I consider that both INTJ and INFJ can and perhaps often do use this function in this same way? Or is it perhaps something that more so applies to the INFJ due to their greater connection with Fe(being a function that deals primarily with others as it’s point of focus)?

    It feels like if I could know your explicit thoughts on this specific example it would likely enable me to have a deeper comprehension on the book overall. Either way, it’s a great book! Thanks for doing what you do guys!

    Keep on keeping on!

    • Will
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      Hey Jim, random passerby, but figured you might find this PHQ useful: https://personalityhacker.com/phq-questions-perspectives-used-by-infj-vs-intj/

      Suffice it to say, there’s a fair bit of nuance, but jumping into other people’s perspectives isn’t something that only INFJs would be adept at doing. However, the judgment about what to do with those perspectives are largely mediated by Fe for INFJs and Te for INTJs.

      That said, I do think that it would have been worth delving into those differences in utilization in the book, even if the generalized description is technically correct. But, then, I’m a nerdy stickler for details (INTP here), and most people are unlikely to be as interested in reading the 10+ pages of depth I’d love to get into for each function in each slot.

  • Dana S.
    Reply

    From an NT long-time fan, I am HERE for the woo-woo, Joel. Don’t apologize, but do keep calling it out if you think normalizing it could be helpful for the uninitiated. Gotta meet the people where they are!

  • AWOL
    Reply

    May as well give up the ghost and admit I’m an ISFP. What am I going to do with my life now??

    Thank you as always for the awesome content🙂.

    Good vibes to you both.

  • Michael
    Reply

    The woo-woo is okay.
    ~ an ISTJ

    • Teresa
      Reply

      I thought I was a enfp, and I’m a entp.. i am not the usual entp, having done so much work on my self.. I’ve nearly come out as a enfp all the time…99%.

      I was always told I’m pretty detached and enfps arent.. so I grab onto that.. who wants to be called cold, detached , logical.. what did it was the inner voice deep down, but it was the journey not the goal.. that made me see it.

      So many intjs said no your a fp.
      You dont debate either..u like harmony, entps said nope yr a fp, a intp friend said nope, yr Ti is very high..but your a mature healthy entp.

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