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In this episode Joel and Antonia talk about using psychedelics as tools for personal growth.

In this podcast you’ll find:

  • Riff Tracks – Reefer Madness
  • Marijuana and Cannabis have been the butt of a lot of misinformation.
  • Drugs are like anything that can have painful consequences in the wrong hands.
  • We would like to have a conversation in an attempt to shift some perspectives on this topic.
  • The opiate epidemic is ruining lives. These are not banned drugs. Doctors prescribe these opiates and people are abusing them.
  • Any time you take a substance into your body, there is a risk of abuse. Whether it is tobacco, alcohol, or an opioid.
  • The United States categorizes drugs as legal and illegal.
  • We want to talk about substances that we can use as tools for personal growth and behavior change.
  • When you open yourself up to tools that can alter your mind or body, you should be cautious.
  • Seek help if you are abusing a substance.
  • We shouldn’t fight drug use by criminalizing it.
  • There is a handful of psychotropics that have interesting results.
  • Timothy Leary – a proponent of LSD – “You have to have the right set and setting or you will have a useless experience.”
    • Set is mindset. How are you going into it? How have you prepared your mind and body?
    • Setting is your environment. Context. The people around you.
  • What you can do with LSD you can also do with meditation. But the difference is you can walk across the US, or you can fly in a jet plane.
  • Meditation will get you there, but it takes longer.
  • LSD should be used for personal growth. Not a party drug. If someone has a bad experience, what were their set and setting?
  • LSD removes the filters that define our worldview. Sensory filters that stabilize the world. Like sight.
  • Saccadic masking – blindness our brain covers over.
  • Trip indicates you are going someplace. You can bring back souvenirs from trips.
  • A lot of intention and time goes into a trip.
  • Detoxify from toxic food. Journal. Meditate. Get your mind into the right space.
  • Don’t take this experience lightly.
  • Studies have indicated that LSD can be very helpful for people dealing with PTSD.
  • It is irresponsible not to use it in medical research.
  • Hollywood and religion don’t often depict substance accurately.
  • Have respect for substance, but don’t fear it.
  • Anything that grows from the ground should not be feared.
  • Gateway drugs are gateway drugs because of the people that demonize everything.
  • So, when a kid tries something tame and realizes they were lied to about its harmful effects, they move onto more harmful substances assuming they were lied to about them too.
  • 25 or older. The brain doesn’t stop forming until 25. So, if these substances were legalized there should still be age limits.
  • LSD in the U.S. is considered Schedule 1 – which means it is of no value, including in medical research.
  • That designation should be reassessed.
  • Most people can’t have a mature conversation around this.
  • Some gifts can be given to you if you use these psychotropics responsibly.
  • MDMA – the chemical found in ecstasy – Dumps serotonin and dopamine into the system.
  • Souvenir – Massive compassion for human race.
  • Psilocybin mushroom souvenir – everything around us is just pure energy. We tell stories about everything we do.
  • Releasing attachment to the mundane.
  • Lose a sense of all the narratives you tell and get a sense of your life and everything that happens on a DNA level.
  • You continue the script from previous generations and pass it on to future generations.
  • If you want to experiment with these things, make sure you have the right set and setting. Take special care with anything that can be addictive.
  • MDMA requires caution. When it dumps the serotonin and dopamine into the system, there is a limited number of times you can do that before you burn out the receptors in your brain.
  • We aren’t advocating drugs, but we want to open up a conversation about it.
  • Talk openly about these things and consider that the stories we believe may not be true.
  • We can’t encourage you to do something illegal. At least we can start using these things in medical research.
  • Cannabis is considered Schedule 1 and its medical benefits are widely known.
  • We are advocating open dialogue.
  • We are advocating profound experiences.
  • There are ways to have these peak experiences that don’t mean illegal substances – ayahuasca is not illegal if it’s used religiously.
  • DMT is Schedule 1.
    • Look up Spirit Molecule on Youtube
  • DMT is found in everything, not just plants.
  • Right before we die, our brain prepares for death by dumping DMT into our system. So, near death experiences when people see God or see the light is really a DMT trip. Many die in a hospital where they are anesthetized and deprived of this important near death trip.
  • Apparently, nature thinks DMT has some medical use.
  • We should re-evaluate whether these things have some medical merit.
  • Be open to talking about things. Why should we avoid subjects just because we always have?
  • Make wise decisions for yourself.
  • Consider different technologies.
  • See things from different perspectives.
  • A lot of ego transcendence work can be facilitated by occasional use of psychotropics.
  • You can get emotionally and psychologically addicted to these drugs. So care and responsibility must be taken.
  • Don’t act like these substances are no big deal. But there’s no reason to fear them.

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25 comments

  • Undo
    • Undo
    • January 31, 2017 at 10:03 am

    Second INTP seal of approval

  • Vicki
    • Vicki
    • January 31, 2017 at 4:10 pm

    Thanks to you for a very responsible, informative perspective on using psychedelics for personal growth. It is refreshing to hear how some drugs can be used in a personally positive way and not just all viewed as dangerous and to be avoided at all costs. There are indeed positive, life-changing, profound realizations that can be attained from responsible psychedelic use. —INTJ-approved : )

  • Nicole
    • Nicole
    • January 31, 2017 at 7:14 am

    INFJ approved also, although a mention of precaution around mental illness would be well placed I believe. Particularly around bipolar and schizophrenia.

  • Michael
    • Michael
    • January 30, 2017 at 7:09 pm

    INTP approved.

  • Liz
    • Liz
    • January 30, 2017 at 3:13 pm

    BRAVO to you guys for starting a long overdue conversation!

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