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In this episode Joel and Antonia talk about developing your 10-year-old cognitive function after you develop your co-pilot process.

In this podcast you’ll find:

  • We talk a lot about the cognitive function stack.
  • Car model
  • Our number one message is focused on developing the copilot process.
  • If you feel you have mastered your copilot, what then?
  • Type theory indicates you develop the cognitive functions in the order they appear in the car.
  • First is the dominant/driver process. Then auxiliary/copilot.
  • Around midlife, people start developing their tertiary/10 yr old process. Then later in life, they may start gaining some growth with the inferior/3 yr old process.
  • The tertiary should always be in support of the copilot.
  • Things to be aware of:
    • If you believe your copilot is extremely well developed and you have never had the context that has pushed you there, or never done active work with it, then your copilot may be your dominant. You may be mistyped.
      • There are extraverts (ETJs) who often identify as introverts. So, when we tell ITJs to develop Te, the misidentified ETJ will realize their Te is very well developed. Not because it is a copilot but because it is actually their dominant.
    • If you have self-diagnosed as having a strong copilot process, make sure you aren’t being biased. We all want to see ourselves as more developed than we are. There is a difference between use and mastery. Just using a function does not mean you have mastered it. We are talking about people who have exercised their copilot. Come to this from a perspective of modesty.
  • If you are right handed, your auxiliary hand is your left hand. I’m sure you use your left hand every day but are you proficient? Can you write with it? Same with the copilot, are you really a master? Do you demonstrate some capabilities that clearly mark you as a master?
  • When you start developing the copilot, it becomes apparent how much more there is to it and how much work you still have to do.
  • Working on the copilot can be destabilizing. It takes time.
  • Copilot will never get to the same level of mastery as the dominant/driver, but it can get close.
  • Once you gain mastery over the copilot, you gain access to the tertiary in a whole new way.
  • Usually, we access the tertiary in the dominant/tertiary loop, which isn’t healthy. It allows you to stay in whichever attitude (extraverted/introverted) you prefer. It’s our comfort zone.
  • Once you develop the copilot, the tertiary becomes a new tool that may feel awkward at first.
  • A big misstep in developing tertiary is the tendency to underestimate the amount of energy it requires of us.
  • Be careful not to throw too much energy at the tertiary because it can suck you dry if you let it take over.
  • Make sure tertiary is in service to your strengths.
  • Choose the right tool for the job. Don’t randomly toss assignments to your tertiary, be mindful of the function that is calling the shots.
  • As we develop our tertiary and inferior processes, they will grow past 10 and 3 yrs old.
  • We have the tendency to want to rush thru the stages of personal development.
  • There’s no need to rush. Take your time and pick up the necessary lessons.
  • The trophy comes when you gain all the necessary skills as you go through the levels.
  • How do we develop tertiary:
    • Start by mastering driver/copilot
    • Avoid driver/tertiary loop
    • Access tertiary using copilot
    • Let copilot request assistance from tertiary
    • If you feel like you have done a lot of work in copilot/auxiliary, your 10 yr old may feel regressive because you are starting all over again mastering a new tool. But that tool can now be used to improve mastery of your strengths.
  • Where are you on this journey?

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  • Sara dH
    • Sara dH
    • July 11, 2018 at 8:50 am

    Looking at the MBTI model and how you describe it, it seems that is what I am doing now only journey. For many years I had a lot of boundaries to my 10 year old function as I knew that my reading and usage of Fe was skewed but to different reasons. So I ended up not saying anything of what I saw or for even make any conclusions that Ti wants to do. i just worked on noticing what was going on, observing through Fe. Training myself not to draw assumptions. Ok, I see a pattern there, sure ok – but I won’t make a story or fact out of it. It just is. I started doing this in my early teens via an intuitive mentor and she was also very firm in her boundaries of not going there – but just building attainment in the other areas. It was all in service of an unhealthy cycle. But delving deeper into the Ti, I do feel the regression and sometimes I feel so vulnerable using Ti. And I notice immediately when I go off course or out of alignment, Which I believe to be part of the process. To use Fe to this side as well. Not expecting perfection out of the 10 year old, but to effectively hold space for it via the auxiliary function. Without that support from Fe to hold space for Ti would just have killed me. I remember how the possibility that i was going to hurt someone or be wrong was so scary before that ti turned into a critical bully towards myself before. Now I can say, ok, that didn’t go as I wanted to, nobody is bad and wrong, we are just learning. And I also believe that working on your tertiary is coming into acceptance with it’s flaws, to love it none the less (but none the less not let it sit at the steering wheel). This is perfectly in line with the middle path in buddhism and how neither suppressing nor enabling is the path to growth. And I also believe that inner disciplin, that is not suppressing nor shaming, needs to be reached before going into these depths. This is mirrored in reparenting work in psychology and how we absolutely need to have a healthy inner parent BEFORE we do inner child work.

    Yes, you are way more grounded and comfortable in yourselves in these podcasts than your first ones. It is a joy to listen to.

  • luca
    • luca
    • December 22, 2016 at 1:20 pm

    this is exactly the case with me. i thought for a while i was intj or intp, turns out i’m entj. i knew i was pragmatic, but i underestimated myself as a leader which is funny as i look back and i constantly lead. i also underestimated how much of a leader i am. often i’ll have a talk with someone, and for them it’s like a full on argument and to me it’s almost like a chilled out productive time.

  • Jon
    • Jon
    • December 21, 2016 at 11:33 pm

    ENTP here. After listening to the podcast, I am thinking my copilot Ti might not be as developed as I thought it was. (As discussed in the podcast, it’s been ‘used’ but not necessarily ‘exercised’ on purpose.) So I dig everything y’all are saying in this podcast, but is there one specifically on developing/exercising your copilot and how to do this more? I looked through all the podcasts and didn’t see it explicitly – but I know you guys talk about it all the time, so I must be missing something. Let me know!

  • Matt
    • Matt
    • December 15, 2016 at 2:08 pm

    Thanks for this podcast and the other podcasts as well. ISTJ here. I felt nodding my head and smiling as I listened. I find that the things that I learned here are true. I did “consult” with my 10 year old (Fi) and let my co-pilot (Te) do the decision making in the past few days. I let my 10 year old serve my co-pilot. It worked! It’s uncomfortable but it worked! I felt healthier!

  • Cait
    • Cait
    • December 15, 2016 at 2:38 am

    Hi there. I’m wondering if you guys would comment on how Si manifests as a tertiary or inferior process? I love your podcasts. : -- )

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