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In this episode, Joel and Antonia create a distinction between the capacity and maturity of your cognitive functions.

In this podcast you’ll find:

  • Our framework, the car model, is a way to understand your cognitive function stack in terms of capacity and maturity.
  • Dr Dario Nardi finds that as people grow, they can use their backseat functions with more maturity than those who have the same functions in the driver or co-pilot position.
  • What do we mean when we talk about maturity versus capacity of our cognitive functions?
  • Developing your backseat functions – why this is more about integration rather than working on them in isolation.
  • Antonia shares some examples of what Si integration looks like.
  • Things to keep in mind about our relationship with our 10 Year Old function.
  • Antonia discusses integrating Fe as a 10 Year Old – and developing a mature relationship with it.
  • Why do we tend to be overconfident with our dominant function, and lack modesty with our 10 year old?
  • Our relationship with our Co-pilot – and why is this a good access point for growth.
  • What does a healthy relationship look like with each of our functions, based on their position in our car?
  • Viewing the car model as something in motion.

In this episode Joel and Antonia create a distinction between the capacity and maturity of your cognitive functions.

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  • Amanda
    • Amanda
    • September 19, 2020 at 9:50 pm

    I love your podcast, this one in particular. It really helped all the research I’ve been doing, absorb on a real level. To appreciate each person for their individual gifts. It gave me a good understanding of how my 10 year old function shows up in my life. I’m an INTP female, and for me, it filled in the gaps I was missing, in the sense of purpose for self growth. I have gained so much in the past couple months, than I have in a lifetime. Antonia & Joel, keep doing what you’re doing, you both truly inspire me. ❤️

  • Anita
    • Anita
    • June 16, 2020 at 3:42 am

    This episode was such an important one for me… as an INFP who grew up with an ISFJ mother, I had plenty of chances to become familiar with my 10-year old, tertiary Si. I always thought my Si capacity is abnormally high, but now I realize that’s not really true; it’s that I had developed a very familiar relationship with it as that is my mother’s dominant function. Vice versa, I had developed a suspicious relationship with my co-pilot, auxiliary Ne, though my capacity for it is actually high – whenever I get to be innovative, I feel happy and enjoy the process, but I had gotten into a habit of suppressing it because Ne looked so “immature” whenever I watched my mother deploy it as a child, and I became very suspicious of it. Now as an adult, even with awareness, I still struggle with letting my co-pilot and driver functions mature. But at least this episode helped clarify and gave me the language to say that my capacity for Ne and Fi is high, but I just need to cultivate my relationships with them. Thank you!

  • Lisa
    • Lisa
    • May 29, 2020 at 1:53 am

    Yeah I’ve gone through a few transitions with my approach to writing over the years, started out definitely as a plotter (but got bored and lost interest too much), tried out the 100% write into the void Pantser style (worked great until I got about halfway done with a book and had no idea what would come next lol…the dreaded second act sag), so I’ve been experimenting more recently with being a “Plantser”, doing a combo of right brain intuition/creativity and left brain plotting/editing. Having a rough idea of the whole story but not knowing exactly how it’ll unfold seems to be the sweet spot for me.

    The never-ending struggle is definitely the staying excited long enough to finish something part…so I will definitely check out that Ray Bradbury book, thanks for the rec!! Sounds like just what I need. Because bullying myself into writing may occasionally produce results but it’s miserable, and if the process isn’t at least a little fun, then what’s the point??

    And good call on having a system for my ideas. I should definitely think more about that, because I often compose things in my head and then forget some of the best bits when it comes time to actually write it down.

    All super helpful, thank you!

  • Alex Logsdon
    • Alex Logsdon
    • May 28, 2020 at 10:18 pm

    This is the link to that book. Got the paper back for cheap tho too on

  • Alex Logsdon
    • Alex Logsdon
    • May 28, 2020 at 10:04 pm

    I’m an INTP and hobbyist writer so I totally relate to the Si routine struggle. Been there done that- I’ve had elaborate schedules and quickly learned that the more elaborate, the worse it is haha.

    I like Antonia’s suggestion about outlining— I don’t know if you know the terms Pantsing and Plotting in relation to writing… as in, do you write by the seat of your pants or do you plot your outline, etc out ahead of time? It sounds like you might be a pantser, if your Ne acts anything like mine. So anyways, if you are a pantser, incorporating elements of plotting could look a lot like incorporating your Te, perhaps. Like making big picture outlines, or stopping every so often to revisit what you have so far, and do a little planning. It could be that revisiting the plan every so often would help remind your Fi and Ne what the big picture is and what the purpose/goal is.

    Another thing that might be Te is creating a system that automates your ideas. As in, your Fi/Ne probably come up with all sorts of great ideas in the middle of the day…. and then when you decide to write you don’t have access to them anymore. So if you set up a super easy to use system (like notes on your phone) that you have on you at all times, you could write ideas down as they come. That way you only have occasionally push your Te to do one little thing throughout the day… which will help jumpstart your Fi/Ne when you sit back down.

    The last thing I can think of isn’t about Te particularly… but I have a strong feeling that the author Ray Bradbury is an INFP. There’s a book of his essays called Zen and the Art of Writing, which i think u can read online if you google. It is just full of Fi/Ne methods, which basically are “ways to feel get excited as hell about ideas and blaze through them to the end” more than any sort of “plan”. I resonated a lot with it, but I could tell there was an element of feeling that I miss. Man, he is just full of those powerful, driving, feels. Very inspiring stuff and very practical tips if you identify with his methods.

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