Joel and Antonia dig into why perceivers and judgers often handle organization differently as life gets more complicated. They challenge the stereotype that judgers are simply more responsible, reframing responsibility as something tied to what each type feels accountable to. The conversation explores internal versus external organization, responsiveness under pressure, and how AI may change the way we think about systems and responsibility.
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J vs P - Are Judgers Really More Responsible Than Perceivers? | Podcast 647
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ENTJ here which is the WORST kind of judge😉
If you’re looking at extremes between 100% P or 100% J your description of J is precise-ish.
When I look at systems I’m looking for efficiencies in the things that don’t really require my thought. So like when it comes to cleaning instead of just not doing it and then it turns into this super herendous task that takes me away from bigger things I look to automate what I can. Like my roomba (Beatrice) takes care of the floor, I have a daily spray that’s non toxic, scrub brush that hangs of my shower curtain rod so that if anything crops up or I have 5 extra minutes I can scrub. I have Kleenex that I use to wipe off the bathtub ledges once dry etc…so now not only is my bathtub clean I literally devote very little time.
So when it comes to Ai I’ve been embracing this and championing it because we need to decide where it is suited best for efficiencies what can we automate easily first while it learns. When will we still need a human to put their eye on it, what will we use our people for instead once we’ve done that. Can we encourage incentivize schooling work credit to keep our employees just in a different capacity etc.
I think both P and J’s want to be responsive it’s just J’s don’t like to let anything go to the point it makes them less efficient in the long run.
As far as external systems I have those for the things I don’t use regularly but piles are the things I use daily and IF you touch my pile I will break your fingers. I just have less of them so I don’t have to keep track of so much stuff, because I’m always moving into something new or using my brain for higher thought. Not all J’s are this way, I think about finance people as the ones that live in their system but never look to optimize.
The scissor thing would drive me insane! We have 4 pairs one that has a magnetic holster and is on our fridge, 1 in our knife block, one in the utensils drawer and one in my nightstand for clipping tags off of new things or whatever else comes up on that side of the house. More about when do I need scissors and then where is the most efficient place to put them so that the task only takes a few seconds vs having to go ALL the way down stairs twice!
Does that make sense? In order for me to be responsive I have to have things set up in the physical world so that I remain nimble and responsive in a very quick way. Think of it like fielding a baseball/softball there is the ready position and you always want to be in the ready position unless you are actively fielding the ball…
Hi Antonia and Joel! I am a big fan of your podcast. Just love how your minds work and how you are bouncing of ideas from each other!
I just listened to the episode about the judging and perceiving function and can’t help but wonder: wouldn’t it be a difference if you have an introverted judger versus as an extroverted one? Because for the introverted judger the dominant function actually is a perceiving function. I am an INFJ, and from my own experience I have to say that often feel like a perceiver when it comes to external systems. However, I am totally organized, reliable and “responsible” when it comes to my family and loved ones, taking care that everyone has what she/he needs and also when it comes to group projects or responsibilities. Finances on the other hand, a whole other story … And you should see my desk! :-) I resonated with both description you offered for judgers and perceivers. Would love to hear your perspective on this! All the best, Natalie