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In this episode Joel and Antonia delve deep into the world of Myers Briggs personality types and explore the deeper (and very useful) parts of the system no one is talking about.

In this podcast you’ll find:

  • Myers Briggs Personality Types – Fairly accessible to everyone and is widely used in universities and companies.
  • Its wide accessibility is its weakness
  • History of Myers Briggs Personality Types
  • Started with the work of Carl Jung who was a contemporary of Sigmund Freud. He studied archetypes, patterns of how people behaved and what made them different from each other.
  • Carl Jung discovered that our minds have mental process that are a primary way of interacting with the world. The archetypes were representations of different mental processes. The behaviour might manifest itself in many ways but it’s that mental process and the way you see reality that matters.
  • 8 Cognitive functions – described the primary ways people learn and understand information and the primary ways people make decisions or evaluate that information.
  • Isabel and Kathryn Briggs were students of Jung and they were working on a system. These are the mental processes of your mind. How the mind sees and engages with reality. They recognized that there’s one component missing – Judging and Perceiving.
  • The point of knowing your 4 letter code is meant to tell yon which cognitive functions are your favourite and indicates preferences.
  • First Letter – I or E (Introversion and Extroversion). Some say that there are more introverts than extraverts
  • Extraverts – the outer world is the real world
  • Introverts – the inner wold is the real world.” Introverts need alone time.
  • We tend to believe that extraverts are always outgoing and introverts are always shy and quiet. However, there are introverts who are very friendly and there are extraverts that are reserved and discreet.
  • Second Letter – S or N (Sensing and Intuition). This is how we understand reality.
  • Sensors rely on verifiable information.
  • Intuitive are comfortable making leaps of habit by ‘thinking what’s behind the curtain’. They are far more interested in speculation.
  • Majority of the world are sensory.
  • Third Letter – T or F (Thinking and Feeling).
  • Thinking – how you’re making decisions based on a thinking criteria – pieces of information that be processed and accounted for.
  • Feeling – how their decision will impact other people specifically.
  • All thinkers feel and all feelers think
  • Fourth Letter – J or P (Judging or Perception). Most people say judging are people who are well- organized.
  • Judger – they want outer world organization in order to have inner world freedom.
  • Perceivers – inner world organization in order to have outer world freedom. Perceivers like to be spontaneous.

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  • Austin
    • Austin
    • March 29, 2016 at 4:41 pm

    Something that I think is important to note is that in terms of functions corresponding to a 4 letter code, is that for “IXXX” types, the dominant function in terms of J/P relationships is actually reversed from what it is for “EXXX” types. For example, you guys mentioned that J types generally want an organized outer world, so that the inner world remains free. This idea seems to be corresponding to the idea that for “J” types their decision making or judging function (T/F) is dominant. That is only true for EXXJ types. For IXXJ types, it’s actually the information gather (N/S) function that is dominant, and the reverse holds true for EXXP vs IXXP types. I assume you guys already know this, but I think it deserves some clarification for IXXP types who may see themselves as very “J” oriented or organizing their outer world due to the usage of Fi/Ti as a primary function.

  • Antonia Dodge
    • Antonia Dodge
    • November 6, 2014 at 7:46 pm

    The purpose of how we break down J/P is etymology, not just resulting behavior. WHY do we all know Judgers to be orderly and Perceivers to be messy? And if a Judger happens to be messy (as many INxJs can be) and a Perceiver is orderly (like my ISFP Enneagram 1 father in law), are we in danger of mistyping based on the stereotype?

    Our take isn’t different than the general concept, it just peels the reasons why back a few more layers. Judgers are ‘known to be orderly’ because they need it to give themselves space for inner freedom, and Perceivers are ‘known to be messy’ because that’s the world where they like their freedom. Seeing the etymology helps understand the root desire and notice when there are anomalies that don’t fit the standard pattern.


  • Jeff
    • Jeff
    • October 30, 2014 at 9:36 pm

    Ok WOW, Judging vs. Perceiving…Different take on it than from what I studied. I am not quite sure I completely buy your version but I am open to it. I do believe you could go into more details on this. Mainly because we all know it to be judging=orderly/decisive and perceiving=open mided/messy

  • Frederick
    • Frederick
    • July 4, 2014 at 9:01 am

    The NLP decision strategy starts with a trigger, before the trigger you weren’t interested in that thing that you now are interested in. It could be an external event (layoff),it could be an internal event (you got sick).

    The trigger starts the decision strategy process, after the trigger there’s the “operator” (please follow along with the picture i linked in my first post)

    The operator gather data that we think we need to take the decision, this to me is perceiving. Everyone of us use his favorite way to gather informations. It could be exploration for you and Antonia, it’s perspectives for me.

    Once we gathered enough data the next step is the test. The test is where we evaluate our options against a set of pre-stored criteria that’s unique to us AKA our values. This to me is judging, people use different criteria when evaluating information, it could be authenticity for you, it’s accuracy for Antonia, it’s harmony for me.

    The next step is go/no go, if we found an alternative that satisfy our criteria we go for it, if we haven’t found an alternative that satify our criteria we could switch back to gather new informations or we accept what we have even if it doesn’t satisfy completely our criteria or we exit completely from the decision process.

    This is a very short explanation of the NLP decision strategy

  • Joel Mark Witt
    • Joel Mark Witt
    • July 3, 2014 at 2:37 pm

    Hi Frederick.

    Thanks for the comment. I have studied a bit of NLP and not completely sure how to map the “operator” and “test” when it comes to “perceiving” and “judging.”

    As you make these comparisons – I’d love to hear about what you think the connections are.


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