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In this episode Joel and Antonia dive deep into the needs and challenges of the INTP personality type.
In this podcast on the INTP personality type you’ll find:
INTP – Accuracy/Exploration in Genius system
INTPs have a crucial role that they play in our society. That task may seem a little thankless, which helps us understand some of the challenges they face.
Deep down inside, INTPs care more than they let on.
The Driver for INTP is Introverted Thinking (Ti), which we have nicknamed “Accuracy.”
What makes analytical sense? Decision-making process.
Driver = Flow State = the most rewarding thing you can do.
Ti works the best when it is without social obligation.
The opposite of Ti is Fe “Harmony.” Fe is about connecting and social interaction.
INTPs in the survey revealed their greatest challenge was in connecting with other people.
Copilot – Ne “Exploration” – is pattern recognition. Interaction with the environment without being attached to any outcome. A zoomed out process that allows you to explore your terrain.
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When Ti and Ne are combined it is a fascinating combo of zooming in (Ti – surgical approach to data) and zoomed out (Ne – an overall view of patterns).
Together, these cognitive functions create radically new ideas.
Creating patterns and frameworks and architecting new maps and models requires them to be a bit destructive – like Shiva, the Hindu god of destruction.
Ti works the best when removed from the social bias component.
Emotional connection influences info.
INTPs often show up saying things that other people don’t want to hear, which is their gift to the world.
They are the great destroyer of outdated paradigms or untruths.
INTPs will always look for the strictest vetting process in their chosen field.
We are such social creatures we don’t appreciate it when people call us on our BS/Belief Systems.
We make extraordinary technical strides when we overturn the social norm.
INTPs break things down to their fundamental nature and depersonalize them.
Sometimes frameworks only get so far, and they get stuck because they run out of new frameworks for ideas.
The copilot process for INTPs is Extraverted Intuition, which we have nicknamed “Exploration.”
Exploration gives INTPs access to bigger frameworks and increases their territory, so they have more structures to hang fresh data on.
It is imperative for INTPs to grow their Exploration process.
The alternative is to stick with what you already know. If you don’t take in more territory, your framework may be radically off because you are missing a vital piece of info that’s just outside your existing territory.
Exploration allows INTPs to go out and experience things. Travel is essential to INTPs.
Going outside their comfort zone is imperative. All growth happens outside the comfort zone.
Sometimes we graft our identity to old pieces of info and INTPs overturn the things with which we identify.
But the INTP must first go through the uncomfortable terrain of change and challenge before they can do it for others.
INTPs need to be students of experience, life, and interaction.
The Survey revealed the INTPs struggle with a lack of motivation.
The INTPs that have the greatest motivation have decided they are going to bring their gifts to the world.
The more somebody rests on their laurels and holds back the more they feel a lack of inspiration and motivation.
The 10-year-old process is Introverted Sensing, which we have nicknamed “Memory.”.
Memory often means doing the thing that is known and comfortable. Finding a familiar context and staying there perpetually.
Frameworks don’t expand with Si. So, INTPs double down on Ti and continue to clean slice concepts and data until things become absurd. Without the input from Ne, they keep dividing until there’s nothing left.
Emotion is the seat of motivation, which is an INTPs blind spot. If INTPs double down on their thinking process, they avoid the emotions that will get them motivated.
Emotion is about finding the meaning behind things.
Exploration helps expand frameworks of mind and increase the narratives with which INTPs work.
Why does the data matter?
Ne gives meaning to the data. Without meaning, there is no motivation.
To see the narratives of our lives we need to zoom out.
Get outside yourself and explore beyond your comfort zone.
INTPs can have belief systems.
INTPs love absurd humor. Monty Python. Sketch comedy.
Even falling in love is nothing but a narrative.
INTPS who do the best are the ones who connect with other people through contribution.
INTPs can appear cynical because society doesn’t always honor their gift of radical honesty.
The natural state of an INTP is to be childlike and approach life with wonder and curiosity. Then they get the message that they are unacceptable which leads to cynicism.
Nobody can sustain a feeling of brokenness indefinitely. They either become depressed or resentful.
“You are not broken.”
“You are okay.”
We are seeing more and more media acknowledging the role of geeks and people who influence our technological world.
We see their contribution, but they are harder to reconcile in our day to day life.
We love truth. It reverberates through our spinal cord.
Society is getting ready for entering into a space of radical honesty, but it still means pushing people outside their comfort zones.
Modern technology is forcing us into a state of transparency; most technology is invented by INTPs.
The more INTPs show up as doing their job of being radically honest, the more we will head toward transparency as a society.
In the past, honesty brought death.
We can’t have real harmony without radical honesty, and we can’t have radical honesty without the need to connect with others.
The 3-year-old process is Extraverted Feeling (Fe), which we have nicknamed “Harmony.”
Healthy INTPs can become almost worshiped. They show up with so much credibility. They haven’t rejected Fe, they made it part of their aspiration and decided to use it to make others happy. Their intent is positive.
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Agape – Principled love. We are all in this together.
INTP men/women at the top of their game have many admirers.
Sometimes by solving problems for themselves, an INTP can find a way to solve for a larger demographic.
Female INTPs feel isolated because most women are Fe dominant, and men are usually looking for women to behave a certain way.
Spend more time in your copilot and understand why you struggle to fit in. Then go and find the context that will appreciate you for your gifts.
INTP women are polarizing. Birds of paradise. Not everyone’s going to love you, but some will and they are looking for you.
Pay for the privilege of finding your tribe. Conventions, Seminars, Cons, etc.
Online communities. Reddit.
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As far as other female relationships go, I definitely get that. There are places we congregate, but like Antonia mentioned when she talked about going to conferences, they can take some finding. In my case, I spent a year getting a MA at a Great Books College where the entire methodology is to read difficult but influential old books, then sit around a table with 15 other people, ask an opening question, and follow it through the text for an hour and a half. It’s such an NTP structure. The program itself was great fun, but the best thing ended up being a whole network of people I didn’t otherwise know how to find. I keep coming back because we have a church here that’s about half students from that program, and scientists from the National Laboratory. They’re the best. Like the family in A Wrinkle in Time, with mystical scientific sorts.
I guess where I’m going with that, is that Accuracy/Exploration people (including women) do exist and find each other in religious contexts (and I would imagine social sciences as well, in the corners that try to be more scientific), if you find the little pockets and subcultures that encourage them. I suspect many of the best theologians were Accuracy/Exploration; I’ve been reading the Byzantine theologians, and am convinced they often were. Why else write treatises on things like the precise meaning of “hypostatic union?” Of course, there were people involved in political maneuvering as well, exiling their Accuracy using theologians for some impolitic applications of radical honesty.
Hi, thank you so much for your podcasts!! They are great, honestly!
I’m commenting to make a podcast suggestion. What about trauma? PTSD? How can this affect your personal growth?
I have actually suffered from C-PTSD for more than 14 years, till I finally faced the fears and trauma, and though I still have scars from it, I was only able to truly grow after I worked on my traumas. It felt like if I changed identities during the process (from victim to a more reality based identity) and like if before I was detached from myself, like if I was a no-person.
Is this common to all personality types?
Thank you in advance for your answer!
Hey, guys, I really enjoyed your podcast. I just thought I’d throw in my two cents. I’m an INTP so I understand everything you guys are talking about. However the way I may be slightly different is due to the fact that I have synesthesia (the color of music; the taste of words etc.); and it’s played a major, major roll in my life. For example: I’m really poetic, and extremely imaginative. The synesthesia may have me replying heavily on my intuition. So, yeah… Just thought I’d say something.
Wow! Powerful stuff…this was a much needed deep and poignant sermon to my life the helped me feel understood, spoke truth to my life and inspired me to carry out my “gift to the world”. Thank you!
Wow, that’s really cool! I hope you enjoy it. Personally, I love it. It’s a great mix of problem solving, creation & creativity, and systems. And yes, it does seem quite abstract to me. You’re still building things, as in other forms of engineering, but nothing is grounded in real, concrete things and if you don’t like the way something works, make up your own way! Unlike engineering, coding isn’t fixed to the physical laws of the universe*, instead the whole thing is pretty much an abstract concept people have made up.
Although despite this, I am actually thinking of going back to school myself. I think it’s less the job itself and more that I have enough mastery over it that I’m a bit bored now. My coding job is still the best one I’ve ever had, though, and if I HAD to stay at a job forever, it would probably be a coding job.
So I don’t know your circumstances, but my inclination is still to say, “Go for it!” At any rate, you can get pretty decent pay if you’re a decent programmer, and if you really don’t like it for some reason, you should be able to pay off student debts in not too long (with some good money management). Plus everybody needs programs these days— it shouldn’t be too difficult to find a job.
*Obviously it is at the deepest, electrical level. But most programmers don’t have to deal with that.