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In this episode Joel and Antonia talk about how each of the Myers Briggs types say “I love you.”
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Please reference the article How Does Each Type Say, “I Love You?”
Based upon the program Personalities in Marriage and Relationship
Looking at the 4 decision making or judging functions and how they express and receive love.
Judging Functions determine how we evaluate information and criteria. When we are giving and receiving love we are accessing what we place value on. The Judging Process is how we determine how things should be. Love is very much based upon how we think the world should be. It’s a transaction between two people. The Judging Function is incredibly influential in how all of us experience love.
First Cluster: FJ (ENFJ, INFJ, ESFJ, ISFJ) – The Judging Process they all share is Extraverted Feeling (Fe) or Harmony.
Harmony is how these types make decisions. They worry about keeping harmony with people and getting everyone’s needs met.
How do Harmony users ask, “Do you love me?”
Extraverted Feeling is very interested in emotional interplay between people. They find satisfaction with interpersonal connection. “Your feeling matches my feeling.” In tune. All 4 types are insanely interested in connection. “Do you feel connected to me?”
When getting everyone else’s needs met, FJs need to remember to get their own needs met. A massive sign of love to Fe users is if those in their lives check in to make sure their needs are also being met. It takes the burden off the Fe user. “Will you acknowledge and take care of my needs?” “Will you take action to get MY needs met?”
“Am I safe with you?” Since Fe users are made to express emotion in the outside world, they are very in touch with other’s emotions. This puts them in a vulnerable space. Fe users have to know they are safe. That their vulnerability is going to be honored. Harmony (Fe) users are the most vulnerable to emotional terrorists, crazy makers, unstable hangers-on, etc.
“Do you accept and approve of me?” Giving and withholding approval in social groups. If someone withholds approval it can be a sign they don’t love you. This is the marker Fe users are tuned into.
How do Harmony users tell others they love them?
“I will meet your needs before I meet my own.” Fe cannot help themselves from meeting the needs of others first. If an Fe user is not caring about the needs of another person it is because they don’t’ consider them in their intimate sphere. Fe user will check in regularly to make sure the ones they love are okay. They are emotionally tuned in to those around them.
“I will do my best to keep morale up.” Fe users are very impacted by the energy and emotions of others, so they like to make sure everyone is feeling good.
“I will show you appreciation in whatever way I like to be shown appreciation.” We all overvalue our experience, So it is common to believe other people think the same as we. If someone is communicating something particular to their type but meaningless to us it is easy to reject that gift. Like knocking a taco out of someone’s hand. We don’t understand the gift they are offering so we reject it because it doesn’t mirror our ideals. If you are in a relationship with Fe user, remember that when they show you appreciation don’t devalue it. Take note that these are the things they would like to be appreciated for.
Fe users can feel intrusive as they keep trying to check in emotionally. Misinterpreted as smothering. Harmony users tend to be very service oriented, and other types may resent such acts of service. Fe are appreciative when they get feedback about their service – good or bad. They want to know how to provide the best service to others.
Second Cluster: FP (ENFP INFP ESFP ISFP) – The Judging Process they all share is Introverted Feeling (Fi) or Authenticity.
They are very concerned with what resonates on the inside in a core value way.
“What is in alignment with me?” “What feels right to do in this situation?”
Introverted Feeling is private – “My feelings.” ”What I am experiencing.” “What is true to what I am?”
Identity gets wrapped up in it. Fi users don’t like to shine it on for morale. They recognize that people have an entire array of emotional, subjective experience.
How do Authenticity users ask, “Do you love me?”
“Do you think I’m being real with you?” “Do you trust my motives and intent?” Intent is very important to Fi users. It is very hard for people of this type to express the amount of darkness they see as the human experience. Fi users go thru the whole array of human emotions. Most of us can imagine disturbing, horrific acts, but Authenticity users can actually understand why someone would commit such a heinous act. They can feel the motivation for such things in their hearts – even if they would never do it. Which is scary.
If you are the kind of person who can not only understand the whole array of human darkness but can also find a part of you that could imagine doing that, then intent becomes really important. Intent to stay in the light is all Fi users have.
Other types don’t get how deep this goes for Fi user. Intent and motive is all they’ve got to insure that they are not staying in that dark space.
Questioning their motive can totally shake Authenticity users up. The question laced into their interactions with loved ones is, “Are you trusting my intent and understanding that my motives are good?”
Sometimes language can break down in articulating their feelings, so Fi users will sometimes ask, “Do you have my back?” “Do you know I have good intent even if I can’t explain why something is important to me?” “Will you give me space to be me?”
The Pygmalion Project is our tendency to get into a relationship based upon polarities then try and make the other person just like us. This is profoundly offensive to an Fi user. They want to be recognized as a separate, unique individual and they need to know that those who love them will not attempt to change them into someone else.
How do Authenticity users tell others they love them?
They honor the individual and the authentic expressions of those they love. Other types might let you emote but then walk out after emotionally distancing themselves. But Fi users will hold space for you to say what you need to say, even if it is painful.
They also honor peoples alone time to process their feelings. “We might not be cool, and you walking away might be terrifying, but I know that is what you need so I am going to give you the space you need.” “I’ve got your back no matter what we are fighting over.”
They will also trust that you have their best interests at heart.
Misinterpreted as passive or self absorbed. The very opposite of the intrusiveness of Harmony. Fi users create sympathy by self referencing. It can seem like self absorption to others, but that is how they understand what you are going through. Undeveloped Fi can be passive and self absorbed. If you are projecting onto people these negative qualities, make sure that it is not a legitimate complaint.
Cluster 3: TJ (ENTJ, INTJ, ESTJ, ISTJ) – The Judging Process they all share is Extraverted Thinking (Te) or Effectiveness.
“What works?” “What is the most effective means to accomplish this goal?” This applies to love as well. Love can be vetted through thinking processes.
Love transcends type. Love transcends all models. It isn’t the provence of any Cognitive Function, type or model. How we experience love is personalized.
How do Effectiveness users ask, “Do you love me?”
“Will you handle things?” “Can I rely on you to get your job done?” “Do I have to sit here and worry that you are getting things done?”
There are certain things that create burdens on each of us, so we choose the ones that will go through life with us because we think they will help us relieve those burdens. It’s a burden for Te users to worry about the other person getting things done. “If I can’t rely on you to get things done that is a burden for me.”
“Will you make my life easier?” “Can I relax?” Te are some of the most goal oriented of all the types. They need to know that they will receive the necessary support to accomplish their goals.
Not to say they expect perfection from their spouses, but overtime on a consistent basis, are you fulfilling your obligations?
Te users don’t handle emotional terrorism or neediness. They like to set up systems and forget about them because they assume the systems will function alone. Loyalty becomes important. They set up a system that is a relationship so they can move on to other priorities. They will assume all is okay.
If you break loyalty with a Te user it can break their heart because they have expected you to work within a functioning system. Long term sustainable system.
How do Effectiveness users tell others they love them?
“I will be endlessly loyal on principle.” This doesn’t’ mean Te users will never cheat on spouses. There are various levels of health with all types. But Te loyalty isn’t based upon sex, it is based upon care.
“I will take care of you.” “I will never drop you.” “I will be endlessly loyal.” Healthy versions of this would be sexual loyalty as well.
It’s really about resource loyalty. “I will educate myself on you and learn how you operate.” “What is your daily routine?” They see their partners as a system or resource to learn about and master.
They take pride in their spouse and boast about their accomplishments. “I got the best!” “I attracted this amazing person!”
When a Te user chooses to be in love they don’t necessarily express it on a daily basis. “If anything changes you will know.” “I said I loved you once. I married you. Nothing has changed.”
They don’t suffer fools lightly, or a bad relationship for long. They will generally find an exit strategy rather than stay in something that is falling apart. If they are with someone, that means they have chosen that person. That is love. They stick with their decisions.
If they really feel connected to their spouse they might not be effusive with words of affirmation but they do get cuddly and show a squishy vulnerability that most people don’t see.
Can be misinterpreted as controlling. Distant. They aren’t always spontaneous lovers. They won’t buy surprise tickets to Paris. Te users like to know what is coming up and make plans. If romance is defined by unpredictable displays of affection, Te may appear unromantic. But they are anything but.
Cluster 4: TP (ENTP, INTP, ESTP, ISTP) – The Judging Process they all share is Introverted Thinking, or Accuracy.
Accuracy users ask, “What makes sense to me?” “What makes logical analytical sense?” Ti is thought turned inward. Resources are internal. Data and info need to be congruent.
How do Accuracy users ask, “Do you love me?”A lot of the ways they express and receive love is through competency. They hate having their competency called into question. One way they know their spouse loves them is the spouse indicates their confidence in their competency.
“Do you believe I am competent enough to figure this out?” “Are you impressed with my performance?”
The more Ti love people the more they desire their approval. They don’t care as much about people outside their circle of intimacy.
They also choose partners whose competency they value. And they value the feedback of those who they perceive as competent.
They want approval but will learn from, and value, negative feedback. They like others to refine their talents and skills.
“Can I trust that you don’t think I’m lying to you in any way?” A major part of Ti relationships is radical honesty. “If I say, ‘I love you’ it is because I love you. If I say I am pissed at you it is because I am pissed at you. But I am going to be as accurate as possible with my communication with you.”
“I will put time, effort and thought into how I craft my language with you.” Communication with intellectual integrity. Partners of Ti users have to learn that they are saying exactly what they mean. There’s no duality with them. Take them at face value. Ti users will usually not have much of a connection with anyone who tries to shine it on.
Ti users all need to know that it makes sense for you to love them. There is logical consistency in how you express love. Ti might ask “Why are you with me?” “What about this relationship makes you want to stay with me?” Relationships are not always easy for Ti. They are trying to make sense of something that doesn’t have a lot of sense around it.
How do Accuracy users tell others they love them?
“I will be rigorously honest with you. If I am not free to be honest, I lose interest in that relationship.”
The more Ti users love somebody the more they have freed up space to be honest with them. Ti learn their mate at a precision level.
Ti protects their loved ones from other people but not themselves. They like the same treatment in return. “If you’ve got stuff going on for you that is your test iterate. I’m going to support you but I’m not going to protect you.”
Misinterpreted as harsh, insensitive and cold. This can a legitimate sign of an undeveloped Accuracy user, or it can be a sign of their love. Gifts the Ti gives to their spouse: Gift of competence, and Gift of radical honesty.
Ask yourself, Is this person legitimately at a low level of development, or are you seeing them through your lens of your evaluative criteria?
Step back and hold all these styles in an objective way first. Instead of looking at everything thru your filters.
Take these ideas and start to examine yourself and your mate and see where some of these are cross wired. Can you take the lead in your relationship and start communicating love in a way that makes sense to them?
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Thanks for sharing, Sivana! :)
INTJs lead with an introverted learning process, but their Judging (decision-making) process is extraverted. So, we aren’t calling INTJs extraverts. We are saying they use an extraverted judging process (aka Extraverted Thinking). For more explanation, read this article: http://www.personalityhacker.com/intj-personality-type/
As to why we use extraverted instead of extroverted, Carl Jung used Extraverted because it was based upon the Latin word “extra” or “outside.” Intro means “inside”. Jung believed IntrOverts turn inward, whereas ExtrAverts turn outward. “Extro” is simply bad Latin. Psychology journals use Extra. https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/beautiful-minds/the-difference-between-extraversion-and-extroversion/
I classify as an INTJ – emotional introvert, yet in the text above INTJ’s are call extraverts. (not "extro_?)
Please explain?
I’m also highly empathic.
Oh my goodness! My dad is a TJ, and I am a TP and this explains so many things that my dad has done. My dad always does his job very well, and when we don’t do our job well he becomes very angry. I think he thinks that when we don’t do our job we are saying that we don’t love him, but really we are just being lazy. Also my dad always wants the house to be clean, and I sort of understand that, but I don’t need my surroundings to be that organized, so he gets angry with me when I don’t do my job as accurately as he would want, but by my standards it is as done or as clean as it needs to be.
I loved this podcast. As an ENFP male who has been with an ISTJ female, it was very telling. We have struggled, but we are also both on this path of learning about each other and trying to understand how we think. Started with the love languages, but that was so generic and while it did help some, this was so much more helpful.
The thing I have loved is that I make sure I take things off her list. Her car needs oil, that’s on me. She hates filling up the car with gas, I try to do that. She breaks something like her glasses, I go get them fixed. I can see it upsets her and frustrate her when those things come up, and I just do it. No asking for payback or you owe me, I just get them done. And as I read this podcast, I didn’t realize how much that helps her and how she receives love that way. But I think I must have sensed it (my intuition) because while task oriented items are not my strong point, I love doing them for her.
On the flip side, I’ve never been with someone that allows me to be me. I’ll get on myself for something and she is the first one to tell me, “don’t be silly, why should you feel guilty or embarrassment for that…you love doing it so enjoy” She not only indulges my impulses, but she looks at me in this kind of fascination and then goes right along with me. I remember one month I made this little plan of something we would do everyday…just some fun texts saying how we loved each other. It didn’t quite work out and after a couple of weeks, I decided to stop it as it wasn’t having the desired intent. Won’t go into the details, but she started it with me…when it wasn’t working she never joked about it with me or made fun…she just said “ok, let’s stop”. Typical ENFP who tries something first and then sees if it fits.
I’ve never had someone let me be me and let me grow and let me fail and just have my back regardless. She has never once tried to mold me into something she thinks I should be and that is the first time I’ve ever been in a relationship like that. And after listening to this it was like “holy crap…that’s one of the reasons I love her so much and would do anything for her.” That truly is how I feel most loved…don’t tell me to “grow up” or “man up”…this is me and for someone to see that and embrace that and get me out of my head when I get embarrassed if one of my ideas falls flat…this podcast really had me smiling the entire time.
Love these podcasts. Keep up the great work!!