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In this episode, Joel and Antonia talk about what it means to surrender to the work of building something significant.

In this podcast you’ll find:

  • Many people are seduced by the idea that they can build an online business that brings passive income and runs entirely on its own.
  • “Make money while you sleep.”
  • Self-discipline is required.
  • How do you stay engaged as you age?
  • Instead of resisting the work, surrender to it.
  • It’s about the journey, not the destination.
  • When we resist work, it is because we don’t feel our work has purpose or value.
  • Following your passions is a win-win
  • The seduction is: “When you follow your passions you never work a day in your life.”
  • It’s unprecedented in human history to have so many options open to every one of us.
  • Most of us struggle with knowing what we want to do.
  • So we think we deserve a cushy situation then resist the hustle or the need to work from the bottom.
  • “You mean I have to work hard at the things I consider beneath me?”
  • “You mean I have to work hard in a relationship?”
  • “I shouldn’t have to do the labor to explain my message. Everyone else should come to me.”
  • When you surrender to the work and stop punting it over to somebody else, you realize that you are responsible for yourself, your livelihood, and your message.
  • Self-esteem comes after your surrender to the work and accomplish the things you want
  • Return on investment is high when you surrender to the work
  • The universe doesn’t care if you are too good to do menial tasks. It still needs to get done.
  • Focus on the elements of beauty in the process.
  • Resistance is an energy hog.
  • Surrender is effortless.
  • If you are complaining about something, you are resisting
  • Twice the effort for half the return (resistance) vs. half the effort for twice the return (surrender)
  • The ‘Luxury’ Fyre Music Festival Has Turned Into a ‘Hunger Games for Rich People’
  • Black box thinking: 20-somethings don’t know what goes into all the things they benefit from.
  • GenXers sometimes struggle to surrender to leadership.
  • Xers don’t like being in the cross-hairs.
  • Millennials often think they should be leaders right out of the hatch. They struggle to surrender to the menial tasks that lead to leadership.
  • Xers don’t resist hard work, just leadership.
  • Millennials need to do the work, so they become seasoned leaders as they age.
  • Surrendering to the work looks different depending on who you are.
  • Older generations can let go of control and be advisors to the rest of us.
  • Younger generations need to respect and honor the wisdom of the older generations.

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  • Léa
    • Léa
    • June 14, 2021 at 9:49 am

    First thing I want to say is thank you. I’ve been binging the podcast and got my mum to buy me the book for christmas. I really enjoy your content and it’s a great help. So really, thanks for the work and effort and the sharing.

    I don’t usually comment on stuff but after listening to that episode I feel I need to confess something : Joel, I’m currently training myself to become a Data Protection Officer as the GDPR defines it.

    While I understand your pain I actually think that regulation, if applied in a constructive way, can be a leverage point for individuals, companies and other organization (I actually have many ideas about this!)

    So… sorry but not sorry!
    One of those europeans

  • Jeff Klassen
    • Jeff Klassen
    • August 23, 2019 at 6:17 am

    I find solace in the idea that I never have to totally surrender to boredom. There is usually a thought or presence waiting for me on the other side, or through it all.

    Surrendering to leadership for me has involved building up character, and using character to maintain success. I am an young Xer/ old millennial..

  • Marlene
    • Marlene
    • August 17, 2019 at 7:16 pm

    Is it possible that the reason Antonia has an “easier” time surrendering to the work than Joel is because she uses Fe more often than Fi? My INTJ friend disagreed with the lesson here, insisting that negative emotions should be energized productively, that is, referenced now and then in order to keep the hope of a solution alive. As an INTP, I find emotion referencing to be useless when you have already resolved to “surrender to the work” or other plan. He complains that it is because people surrender to the work too much and too often that we don’t have improved systems in place. Doesn’t this seem to be an Fi-Te vs Fe-Ti debate? “We are right to be upset and we need this feeling to find solutions.” vs “Use the upsetness for as long as you need the drive, then drop it — i.e., for as little time as it’s productive or it will negatively affect necessary work.” Perhaps Fi masters can surrender to the work and to the emotions with great wisdom. The rest of us need the podcast. I certainly needed to hear it to surrender to some of that demonchild Fe work!

  • Kathleen Erickson
    • Kathleen Erickson
    • January 21, 2019 at 7:05 pm

    Surrendering is a cornerstone of spiritual growth and 12-step programs, so glad to hear you talking about its benefits. In my 70s, and in forced semi-retirement (laid off), I am looking at what do I want to do now that I could actually put some time toward “it”. So looking at your “passions, talents, interests” definition to see where they might intersect in my life and work, and taking more leadership roles in various organizations I belong to. Don’t know where it will all lead, but surrendering anyway.

  • Ingebjørg Bærø
    • Ingebjørg Bærø
    • January 17, 2019 at 11:00 am

    Love you! But that GDPR-rant made me cringe. We’ve had to do this at my old workplace this summer, and sure it was hard, but you just need to have policies in place, and get updated consents from people subscribing to stuff if you haven’t already got their consent. Map what data you store and why (i.e. participants at training programs), and make contracts with 3rd party data providers (like your webpage, facebook, mailchimp etc) to make sure they are in compliance as well (which they probably will be).

    I could most certainly be wrong, but I do not believe you need a lawyer! However, if it takes up a lot of your time it might be more cost effective. Your ENTJ should be able to sort this out ;)

    Good luck! From fellow Ne-dom ;)

    PS: Cambridge Analytica was very much involved in the US election, and Facebook originates from the US, so it is absolutely not a European problem only. Felt the need to inform you as a European (although not EU) citizen.

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