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In this episode, Joel and Antonia talk about the struggles Perceivers have with schedules.
In this podcast you’ll find:
- Scrum Board
- Schedule vs. rhythm
- Judgers create the schedule first then the rhythm comes from the schedule
- But for perceivers, we suspect the rhythm comes first, and the schedule evolves around it
- Perceivers can get unrealistic about how much they can get done at any given time, so they struggle with sticking to a schedule.
- They will abandon schedules because they never seem to work.
- When you have an extraverted Judging function higher up in your stack, it is easier for you to keep track of what is happening over a long period of time.
- EPs fixation is unfettered freedom, so schedules can feel like life has no color.
- They may unconsciously sabotage a schedule to maintain their freedom.
- Judgers put a schedule to paper, and it becomes their motivation.
- To check it off the to-do list.
- Perceivers hate To-Do lists.
- Schedules facilitate you to do the things you want to do.
- All of us have stuff we don’t want to do, but it’s the best way to get something done.
- Perceivers – Make peace with your schedule.
- Schedules don’t have to hurt.
- Find what works for you and craft your schedule around it.
- Schedules are a platform for opportunity.
- When you are trying to figure something out, you aren’t sure which rules you can break.
- So, Perceivers may often look more militant about maintaining schedules than Judgers because they don’t know how to adapt if something goes wrong with their schedule.
- Perceivers can tend to forget what they accomplish, too.
- Celebrate the things you accomplish.
- Create anchor events for yourself that are non-negotiable then fit the other things around the anchor events.
- Anchor events may not happen until you find your rhythm.
- Perceivers – Make peace with the schedule and go with the rhythms of your life.
- Go to bed at a decent time, so you have more energy to accomplish things.
- Drink plenty of water
- Exercise
- Eat nutritious food
- Put your shoes on every day
- Judgers need to make sure they don’t have too much energy sapping things in their schedule
- When they were designing Disneyland, there was a patch of grass people kept cutting through, so Disney told them to pave it and create a path.
- Judgers create this Stay off the Grass situation and force themselves into a schedule that isn’t energy efficient.
- Judgers – make sure you aren’t wasting time and effort by shoe-horning yourself into a schedule that is too arduous.
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I’m an INTJ and have always struggled mightily with schedules and being on time. It drives my ISTJ husband insane because he loves to stick to a schedule and is very good at it. I love the idea of schedules in theory, but in reality they feel like shackles because they force me to cut off Ni and focus on the real world. We’ll make great plans together, but then I tend to go off the rails and am unpredictable with how long it will take me to complete a task because my mind is wandering at the same time. I know I need to lean more into Te and am pretty good at getting stuff done when I’m in the right headspace. But when I’m not, I identify strongly with the struggle you described in this episode. I find that scheduling regular “Ni time” into my day helps me avoid going rogue on the rest of the day’s schedule.
Hey, in the middle of this one, and feeling like the works judger ever. Lol. INFJ but married to ENTP, and I’m definitely the “task master, list maker” of the family.. But I’m also a stay at home mom… And can completely relate to the prison of freedom of time. I’ve endeavoured in sooo many ways so many times to create my own schedule… And it literally never works. I LOVE this idea of rhythm instead of constantly failing at scheduling… Because I don’t hate the idea of a schedule at all – unlike my Ne husband who loathes being over scheduled. I see the utility of it for myself and know I can be better and accomplish more with a schedule or routine. Thanks for the inspiration for a rhythm rather than a formulaic “should” schedule – though I am technically a J… My driver being a perceiving definitely seems to throw a wrench in it for me!
Hey Angela, I just saw your comment after leaving my own. I’m in a similar situation and also an INFJ, and I agree I related to several of the more perceiver tendencies mentioned in the podcast. I think it’s because we are perceiving dominant types, and probably also because we’re intuitive dominant types. I feel like I’m good at prioritizing my time, but don’t necessarily need a strict schedule (I actually hate the idea of being too strict with my time).
Hey Antonia and Joel,
I enjoyed this episode! I’m an INFJ who just quit my full-time job to go into business with an INTP who founded a small startup. He has struggled to establish a routine in his business and was specifically looking for a J type to help with this. I think you were spot on when you said that Js can be more flexible with schedules, though. I thought it was funny because before we started he suggested we map out how much time each day we would spend on certain tasks. It seemed super unnecessary to me to establish such a strict schedule. His fear was that if we didn’t have that, though, nothing would get done. Instead, I mapped out a broader weekly schedule and assured him that all would get accomplished, I just didn’t need such a strict schedule.
I think being a perceiving dominant type, I’m probably able to be more flexible than EJs or even ITJs since I don’t value Te. I do struggle with routine when other people aren’t helping me stay accountable, but I’m fairly good at naturally prioritizing my time and getting things done that need to get done, even if it’s not at an exact time that I planned to do it.
For example, I have a morning routine where I make the bed, stretch, meditate, have a cup of coffee, take out the dogs, then work out. Things typically happen in that order, but if they don’t, it’s not the end of the world. If I wake up late, I try to do as much of the routine as I can before I start the day and don’t stress too much if I miss something.
Great insights as always! Good luck with the scrum board, I use an online version of that for work, and it works really well. I guess Te is sometimes good for something, haha.
Hi , I’m intp mom of two, i resonate with all said , and the anker points really work for me, although I still struggle so bad with being up at night I just love that peace and silence too much to give it up and I tend to go to bed after 1,2 .But I do have to getup for my kids at 8 to get them to school so that keeps me from sleeping till who know when. And I know once their home I gotta stop doing whatever work I’m doing . I do officially nap during the day. But I feel like if I’d go to bed earlier like 11 I’d be more productive and rested so I’m really in conflict .
also I like to have a cleaning help, someone comes over twice a week which also works like a anker point and sets the day schedule.weekends when there’s no school we go out together and that’s official family time we go visit family and friends.. otherwise I’d probably rarely just hang out with family but if the kids have no school and keep interrupting me I might as well go out with them. But when my kids grow up and get out of the house I will probably need to readjust it all to not go insane. Being in school as a kid felt like the worst jail ever I’m so grateful everyday not to be there anymore. Anyway Thanks so much Joel and antonia for ur podcasts their amazing, I listen to them while doing boring housework it keeps me going.
(I always wished to have a entp female friend so I love listening to entps talk:) ) I haven’t met any NT females in real life which makes me feel very lonely .