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In this episode, Joel and Antonia talk about which Myers-Briggs cognitive function is more selfish “Harmony” (Extraverted Feeling) or “Authenticity” (Introverted Feeling).

In this podcast you’ll find:

  • Joel defines selfishness as taking more than you should.
  • Antonia defines selfishness as making sure you get yours first.
  • Extraverted Feeling “Harmony” Fe – All FJs and TPs
  • Introverted Feeling “Authenticity” Fi – All FPs and TJs
  • Fi is selfish for the individual.
  • Fe is selfish for the collective.
  • Fe may define selfishness as individuating away from the collective.
  • Fi thinks it’s selfish to make everyone assimilate.
  • Fe finds it rewarding when someone gets their needs met.
  • Fe also takes a hit if someone isn’t getting their needs met.
  • Fe uses other people’s emotions to calibrate if everyone’s needs have been met sufficiently.
  • To a Fe user, Fi does feel selfish because they are taking more energetic resource than they are allowed.
  • Why is it okay to sacrifice inner turmoil over group turmoil?
  • Fe allows everybody to have a bad day as long as everyone agrees that they take turns.
  • Fi sometimes forgets that other people have struggles too and need a turn in the bitch fest.
  • Fi sometimes wants everybody else to focus on their problems and solve them.
  • Fe can be a sickly sweet commandant who condescends to others and forces them to do things their way.
  • Fi can’t understand why anyone would suppress who they are for the group’s benefit.
  • Fe sacrifices themselves every day for the group’s benefit.
  • Fe creates a system where everybody gets their time/day to be special. And the rest of us acknowledge when it is our day and when it is not.
  • Fi doesn’t understand why they need to assimilate for the benefit of everyone.
  • We all have to take the hit on occasion.
  • Fe does more emotional labor than the other types, so they notice when things are imbalanced.
  • Sometimes we project selfishness on to people who have permitted themselves to do what we haven’t. So, it’s a sort of envy.
  • Fe: “I wish I had permission to take for myself.”
  • Fe can learn from Fi that they need to acknowledge their needs freely.
  • Individuals matter, and they need to acknowledge their needs eventually.
  • Fe users can become passive-aggressive, angry, and resentful against the people around them who seem to take, take, take.
  • What Fe fails to realize is they are the ones who created the situation.
  • It becomes a false virtue for Fe users to sacrifice to others while hiding feelings of anger and resentment.
  • Resentment’s root is in envy.
  • Fe hates feeling negative emotions about others, so instead of stacking resentment maybe they can learn from the actions of the Fi user.
  • “They’re giving themselves permission to have those feelings and be disruptive, and I need to give myself the permission to do the same thing on occasion.”
  • Less mature Fe wants us all to buy into the same reality.
  • Fe teaches us that even if we can’t find compassion for ourselves, we can still be compassionate to others.
  • Fi can feel emotionally cavalier to Fe because Fi assumes everybody can deal with their emotional experience.
  • Fe is more gentle with people’s emotions, but they tend to overdo the nurturing and over-protecting.
  • Over-protecting is selfish of Fe because they are protecting themselves from having to see someone else in pain.
  • Our egos are the manifestation of selfishness.
  • So, our way is always going to appear better to us than someone else’s way.
  • Selfishness is not the product of a cognitive function.
  • Selfishness is the product of the individual.
  • All of us are selfish.
  • We have thrived as a species because we are selfish and have a will to live and dominate.
  • We accuse each other of selfishness but rarely admit it to ourselves.
  • Fe has its finger on the pulse of how serving the group helps serve self.
  • The more seasoned Fe gets, the more it will bring in Ti and need less input from others.
  • It’s common for younger Fe users to conflate harmony with agreement.
  • When Fe is caught up in something symbiotic, it wants to share it.
  • Fi has to get good at knowing the sweet spot.
  • “Most of me is on board, so it’s good.”
  • Fe assumes everyone is going to be on board.
  • Fe feels good when everybody is experiencing the same emotion.
  • Fi wants to make sure it won’t regret doing something that runs contrary to its values.
  • Project positive intent on others.
  • Fi can learn from Fe and vice versa.

In this episode Joel and Antonia talk about which Myers-Briggs cognitive function is more selfish "Harmony" (Extraverted Feeling) or "Authenticity" (Introverted Feeling). #introvertedfeeling #Extravertedfeeling

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50 comments

  • Stephanie
    • Stephanie
    • October 27, 2019 at 11:47 am

    I TOTALLY agree! ENTP here. My 2 dearest friends are INFP. From my perspective, you guys seem to get it, and I learn so much from your incredible gift for thinking of others and being reasonable too!

  • Jennifer REIMER
    • Jennifer REIMER
    • October 29, 2019 at 3:25 am

    I think Fi have a gift to be able to allow others to be exactly as they are. Which to me as an Fi is our strength and is the opposite of selfish. We all wish to be accepted as we are. I try to remember that when I feel doubtful of my generosity as an ISFP.

  • Stephanie
    • Stephanie
    • October 27, 2019 at 11:41 am

    Is it possible that Fe isn’t experienced by others as selfless because the Fi is so focused on themselves? If you’re eating alone, please, by all means eat 100% where you want to. But if you want to eat as a group, why wouldn’t the group as a collective decide? How would the group problem be solved and each individual have their needs met? If each person feels like eating at a different restaurant, maybe they should split up. Would that make the Fis happy?..?

  • Stephanie
    • Stephanie
    • October 27, 2019 at 11:33 am

    Hey Stephanie, in case Kristi is unable to respond, I thought I’d take a jab at it. I’m an ENTP with several children. It sounds like she meant that the child will vocalize the issue to work their feelings out instead of doing the internal work privately. I don’t experience this with my INFP daughter or INFP friend. In my experience, your type is super aware of other people’s feelings and doesn’t tend to impose on the group or individual. Personally, I see it most with my ENFP son. He honestly just needs the process of talking it out. I try to allow him to do this privately with me instead of the whole group. I hope that helps and that you don’t mind me chiming in!

  • Stephanie
    • Stephanie
    • October 27, 2019 at 11:13 am

    Yes, definitely listen to the end! However, I am still a little bit confused. ENTP here. I seem to have the most trouble with ISFJ’s. I tend to have a very strong value to allow people to be themselves. I’m a strong non-conformist. However, I do desperately seek connection and harmony. I don’t necessarily want other individuals to “conform” to the way the group thinks, but for pete’s sake! Why do their feelings get to dominate everything? And, if their feelings are so skewed toward themselves and their children that they’re not accurately representing what happened, what’s the point? I feel like a prisoner to every feeling that they have. Does that make me selfish, because I don’t want to constantly listen to the nonsense? I do try to listen for a while and validate their feelings, but it gets so exhausting and I start to wonder why I’m there.

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