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In this episode, Joel and Antonia talk about the judging functions and how we are compelled to use them when they are part of our personality.
In this podcast you’ll find:
- In our previous podcast we spoke about John Beebe’s 8 function model, including the shadow functions.
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Why do we focus primarily on the four functions in our “stack”?
- Why are we compelled to use these functions?
- How the 10 Year Old and 3 Year Old functions are connected to our Dominant and Copilot as polarities (for more on polarities – check out episode 256 and episode 257)
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The relationship we have with a specific function is determined by where it falls in our stack – what this means in terms of sophistication, territory and discretion.
- A Harmony (Fe) 3 Year Old example from an ISTP in Joel and Antonia’s life.
- What does the relationship with the 3 Year Old judging function look like for each personality type?
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IxTPs – Harmony (Fe) as a 3 Year Old:
- The struggle of being unaware of what information creates connection
- Your limitations with keeping a vibe going as an IxTP
- A side note on shadow functions – why we’re actually compelled to “go against” them
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ExFJs – Accuracy (Ti) as a 3 Year Old:
- How your compulsion to tell the truth as an ExFJ can give you a lack of discretion with information
- The risk of oversharing to maintain a vibe
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Remember – you have a compulsion to use the other functions in your stack too.
- An example of how Accuracy (Ti) could show up in the 10 Year Old position
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IxFPs – Effectiveness (Te) as a 3 Year Old:
- Your desire to have impact as an IxFP, but the challenge of not knowing the “right” action to take
- A redefinition of the term “sloth” and how this can be a struggle for IxFPs
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ExTJs – Authenticity (Fi) as a 3 Year Old:
- The trap of finding your identity through external means
- xxTJs and the “role-person merger” phenomenon – illustrated by Robert Iger in his book: The Ride of a Lifetime: Lessons Learned from 15 Years as CEO of the Walt Disney Company
- How our 3 Year Old functions see the world
- How do our judging functions show up as a strength in the Driver or Copilot position?
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xxFJs – Harmony (Fe) as a strength:
- How an Fe user gets needs met to facilitate group connection
- Why is Fe as a strength a master of context?
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xxTPs – Accuracy (Ti) as a strength:
- The gift of understanding which information a person needs
- Accruary (Ti) and the respect for “privacy of thought”
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xxTJs – Effectiveness (Te) as a strength:
- Why xxTJs are more careful about how much they “take on”
- How Te brings the gift of realism to understanding systems
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xxFPs – Authenticity (Fi) as a strength:
- A healthy reframe of “role-person merger” when applied to xxFPs
- Fi’s gift of context for expressing the darker parts of the self
- What’s the benefit of understanding how our judging functions compel us?
- Viewing type growth in a dynamic way.
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6 comments
Thanks for the podcast! INFP here — “OVERSYSTEMIZED”!! Thank you!! As an infp i always get a “dislike dealing with data” things, well it’s partly true, but when i do systems for myself, i tend to oversystemize them. For example, i have an elaborated excel file about all the comic books that i’ve read. There are scoring systems and such, also an auto updated graphic sheet detailing the percentages of each genres and such. It’s for my personal use, not even gonna share it lmao. Also, i once eat waffles with bacon, pineapple, tomato, and such. I literally counted the waffle holes and cut the side dishes in accordance to the number of waffle holes and put them equally inside the holes ? I stopped since it tastes better when you eat it spontaneously.
It was fun listening to this podcast, as once I again I was able to find myself in it. As an INFP, I totally identify with the desire and compulsion to make a difference or an impact in the outside world. BUT, buy am I unskilled in it. I’m always trying to set up systems that relieve me of having to make functional decisions, because they wear me out.
INFP here… I really recognised myself in 3-year old Te thinking I could do “everything on my own”. In fact, if all I needed to do was things that I could do myself, there would be no Te problem! :-) I am very good at organising my own life, making detailed plans to follow for weeks, months in order to achieve something that I really want… as long as I want it strongly enough, and the plan is time-limited ( I could not live very restricted to a plan forever), I can be more self-organised than most people I know. But organising other people on the other hand, is my worst nightmare! I dont know how to do it! Why would they listen to me, how would they follow my instructions…? I also often feel stressed about administrative paperwork that we need to do at my job – in fact, administrative work doesnt interest me at all. So, when I first realised I was INFP, I was surprised that Te is supposed to be my weak function. But it all makes sense when I differ between privately organising my own life, and the ability to organise others.
Veronica, I love your elaboration on this. Very thoughtful and articulate and really adds to this model in a useful way.
I think that the car model can limit the conception of how behaviors and qualities actually show up in the personality. Always referring to the tertiary function as a ten year old limits that function to amateur use, as it never develops. Individual people use their functions in differing measures that have to do with exposure and value more that simply what position it’s in. I envision it more as a sliding scale within parameters because of its position. Someone who grew up with a parent or family values attached to a certain function say Fe (being polite and thoughtful to others and gracious in social situations for instance) may be better at understanding that set of values more even if it’s their third function. That’s what gives personality such depth and richness because these set of behaviors and ways of thinking we call functions can show up in different ways in the totality of the personality. I appreciate that the car model makes it easier to explain these mental interactions but functions are always nested in value systems and in they way we feel about ourselves, how we want to be and more saliently, our identity. A ENFP can be very adept at using Te if they have practice using it since they were young, for instance. Another ENFP may never have had to be responsible or didn’t have a structured childhood. They may struggle with rounding out that aspect of their personality. It’s a scale of familiarity and use, not a stagnant representation.