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In this episode, Joel and Antonia talk with Enneagram experts Dr. Beatrice Chestnut & Uranio Paes about the Head Center Of Intelligence in the Enneagram system. The Head Center contains Enneagram types 5 – 6 – and 7.


In this podcast you’ll find:

  • Guest hosts Dr. Beatrice Chestnut and Uranio Paes join.
  • What is the Enneagram and what are the three centers of intelligence within the system? Beatrice explains the Enneagram’s origins and how it works in a nutshell.
  • What does it mean to be a head type within the Enneagram system?
  • Check out our previous two episodes in this series on the body center and the heart center.
  • How do people in the head center operate – and what is their relationship to the core emotion of fear?
  • The unique relationships head types have with ‘disconnection’.
  • How the head types gain the feeling of control by thinking things through and problem-solving.
  • Understanding the tendency head types have towards intellectualizing their experiences with the other two centers.
  • How do the three head types respond to uncertainty?
  • An overview of types 5, 6, and 7 and the strategies they adopt in response to fear.
  • Why self-observation is both powerful and challenging work at the same time.
  • What are the main challenges and obstacles faced by the head types?
  • Why it’s important to incorporate the wisdom of the other two Enneagram centers on your growth path.
  • Learn more about Beatrice and Uranio’s work via their website, listen to their podcast, and check-out their book: The Enneagram Guide To Waking Up.

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  • Shea
    • Shea
    • January 18, 2022 at 2:45 pm

    I’m an INFP and an enneagram 6. The enneagram 6 was an explanation of a head type. It sounds like a Thinking type, but I’m a feeling type. Can you explain how the opposites for two systems come together?

  • born
    • born
    • November 7, 2021 at 10:42 am

    INFP ENNEAGRAM 5 W4. I believe we are born to predict the future not live in the present.
    Survival its called. Being present to a time is a gift a recent one.

  • Justine G
    • Justine G
    • October 31, 2021 at 1:45 pm

    Hi Josette. I do have a keen sense of incongruency or inconsistency, yes. The mixed messaging of others is a problem for me actually. Sometimes this is an issue of a lack of contextualisation being provided where this was not sufficiently ‘obvious’ – I’m a big fan of contextualising things.

  • Josette
    • Josette
    • October 25, 2021 at 5:49 pm

    Hi Justine. I’m an INFP E6. 692 SO/SX. Do you have a keen sense of congruency? I’ve noticed NF types who are also E6 have a cutting sense of things fitting or not fitting into previous impressions.

  • Justine G
    • Justine G
    • October 9, 2021 at 7:21 pm

    I’ve just read Beatrice’s descriptions of sp5 and sp6 again, and I’d say I’m somewhere in between those two sub-types. I don’t relate much to “(sp-sixes) put a lot of energy and attention into the development of relationships with others”, unless we are including fantasizing and catastrophizing imagined relationships. You could say sp6 but with major boundaries/privacy issues.

    Would major boundaries/privacy issues necessarily = E5? I don’t think so, unless perhaps we are saying the types are partly the product of upbringing and early environments, but even then I’m not sure that entirely works.

    I acknowledge your point about ‘inviting’ feelings – I’ve tried it and mostly failed. I think that’s a whole subject and journey of mastery in itself though.

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