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In this episode, Joel and Antonia talk with Profiler Training alumni and type professional, Inès Kissany about her lived experience during this ESFP personality type interview.


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In this podcast you’ll find:

  • Guest Host Ines Kissany, ESFP, joins.
  • Download our ESFP Personality Type Handy Guide to learn about the ESFP functions.
  • Ines gives us a flavor of her upbringing and how this gave her a unique perspective when it comes to understanding type.
  • How did Ines discover personality type?
  • What type did Ines initially test as, and how did she come to land on ESFP as her best-fit type?
  • How Sensation (Se) is a misunderstood cognitive function.
  • What does Ines love about being an ESFP?
  • Ines shares her journey and experience of getting more into her Copilot of Authenticity (Fi).
    • What makes it difficult to get into Fi as an ESFP?
  • What is Ines’ relationship with her 3-Yr-Old function of Perspectives (Ni)?
  • Ines shares a hack she learned to access her Ni in a more healthy way.
  • Are there any types Ines envies?
  • How does Ines use her 10-Yr-Old of Extraverted Thinking (Te) in her daily life?
  • What would Ines like us to know about her type?
  • Some final thoughts from Ines on finding your true best-fit type.

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  • Brendan Wilmot
    • Brendan Wilmot
    • February 2, 2022 at 8:15 am

    Great episode! I really enjoyed listening to this one. Very real.

    Thank you to Inès, Antonia, and Joel – and to all of Personality Hacker – for all of the tremendous work!

  • Frazer
    • Frazer
    • January 24, 2022 at 10:27 pm

    I am really enjoying this interview series on sensing types! I’m an INFP and I think pattern recognition is hard with typing if you don’t have reference points. I’m trying to grow my Ne and hearing about Se is making me think that Ne must be quite a high energy function too and requires leaving my house sometimes to do it! I also think a close friend I have might also be ESFP. I enjoyed the discussion about trusting the inferior function more! Thx

  • Jess
    • Jess
    • January 20, 2022 at 2:18 pm

    I feel so seen! I am an ESFP and I really resonate with learning things the hard way- experiential learning!! Lol. Great reframe. I also love people and am deeply motivated by making an impact in the world. I really relate to not being able to see the patterns in the moment and then doubting myself. This happened with an ex where in the moment I gave him the benefit of the doubt so often. Ultimately, I broke up with him. Looking back on that relationship- I was like “wow what was I thinking!?!?”. What I felt the most seen by through this conversation was how Innes described how she has been learning to trust herself and be accountable for the choices she makes. I think I’m the past I outsourced my decision making to the influences around me. The chameleon effect I guess! But I think as I have grown up- I have also had to learn how to slow down and make space for that little voice inside me that I am learning to trust.

  • Kayla
    • Kayla
    • January 14, 2022 at 4:32 pm

    I am an ESFP and I resonate with so much of what Ines was saying here. Especially the future planning and feeling blind. I am currently trying to plan a move to a new state or country and I’ve been “planning” this for YEARS… now I have set April as the moving month but still can’t settle on a location. I want it to be a place that I choose for no reason other than it’s what I want for me – and I find that very challenging. So I’m asking for any advice on how to make this decision and this move, as an ESFP. Suggestions?

  • Shobhana
    • Shobhana
    • January 13, 2022 at 7:29 pm

    As an INFP, I found this a fascinating insight into another type with strong Fi- another flavor of Fi, if you will. I completely resonated with the childlike desire to be good at Te and the admiration for TJs. It’s probably worse for me with my 3 year old Te. Ines’ experience of being mistyped as an INFJ because of her 3 year old Ni is similar to my experience of being mistyped as an INTJ. Cannot underestimate the sway of the 3 year old!
    ESFPs sound like the cool, outgoing alter-ego I wish I had and now I really want an ESFP friend, lol!

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