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In this podcast Joel and Antonia look back over the past 16 podcast episodes to talk about a few lessons learned from interviewing each personality type.


In this podcast you’ll find:

  • Antonia shares one her favorite parts from doing the personality type interviews.
  • What is a common path people take when learning about personality types?
  • Why is it so difficult to really grasp the depth of personality types?
  • Who qualified to be part of the interviews and why were they so carefully selected?
  • Why typology doesn’t put people into boxes.
  • Joel shares how different medium can change the way someone presents themselves.
  • Can one single personality type show up as any array of personality traits?
  • What is the one thing about every cognitive function that doesn’t change when it’s in the front seat of the Car Model?
    • What metaphorical connection does Joel make between the 8 cognitive functions and radio signals?
  • Is there a stewardship attached to our personality type?
    • The role of the 10 Year Old and 3 Year Old cognitive functions.
    • How did type stewardship show up in the interviews?
  • What fun observations about type did Joel and Antonia make during the interviews?

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  • Antonia Dodge
    • Antonia Dodge
    • May 3, 2022 at 7:07 pm

    Our sincere condolences for your loss.


  • Ashley [INTJ]
    • Ashley [INTJ]
    • May 5, 2022 at 1:26 am

    Long time lurker here, thought to comment.
    Interestingly enough, it was precisely because the whole podcast series was about the lived experiences of the 16 types and not a generalized description that had me tuning in to listen.
    I find the general memes, while entertaining, not very useful. The generalized stereotypes, while sometimes useful, also not helpful. People can often express themselves in very different ways than the accepted “norm” of their types and as someone who is a hobbyist at best with the MBTI type system to try to understand people people better; the lived experiences of how people assess their own thoughts and verbalize them was so very much appreciated. It is so much more insightful to hear from people who understand themselves to hear about how their brains work.
    This series really helped me out in clicking a number of pieces together to better understand my brother, who is quite different from the rest of the family and we couldn’t really figure out why. We are all introverts, intuitives and judgers, but my brother? He has an emotion/people connecting and charismatic component that our mom, dad and I don’t have, and that was the question. How precisely, was his cognition different? We all generally comprehend the world the same way, but he had a very different method of interacting. The INFJ episode really clicked for putting the puzzle pieces together for me in regards to my brother. In fact, the interviewee sounded like a more mature version of my brother.
    Each episode was a learning experience, some more so than others for various reasons. Some, were more understandable than others. The others were an “Ohhh, so that’s why I don’t understand people like you”. Turns out they use functions that are not anywhere close to the INTJ stack, and thus don’t make sense to me. But they make sense to themselves, so, that was helpful in how to start to understand/accommodate them better in the real world when I come across them.
    I also used this series as a contrast/compare to how my own cognition. Did I use those functions? What did I do differently? Mistyping is a thing, so, was I? This question arose because I am working in the horse industry, have since I started riding over a decade ago. It is very sensory based, both introverted and extroverted due to how the horses’ own brains work and dealing with that. I also have ADHD leanings, thus physical activity is a must. The phrases “busy hands, idle mind”, “proactively lazy” and “just being efficient” often come up and while I work, cleaning paddocks and the like, the mind can wander while the hands are engaging in a physically demanding, yet detail oriented job. . .that also doesn’t have a lot of contact with people.
    To no surprise of my own, the INTJ podcast was the most resonating (particularly the part about having a job that had busy hands and an idle mind). I’d had much the same struggles as the interviewee, but much earlier in life when I was a preteen or so, but figured it out before the teen years really hit. I had a healthier outlook from my parents that being weird was fine, that it was a variant of normal. . .Whatever normal was. As a result it was saddening to hear of the more negative story from the interviewee.

    Either way, thanks for the series! It was quite insightful and helpful!

  • Antonia Dodge
    • Antonia Dodge
    • May 3, 2022 at 7:04 pm

    Thank you for sharing – I definitely think your comment and experience is valuable.


  • Trevor (INTJ)
    • Trevor (INTJ)
    • May 3, 2022 at 4:15 pm

    This was a great wrap-up to the series.

    I found it helpful in listening to interviews of all types. Gaining that perspective of the different flavors of each type and seeing how people can differ from their stereotypes.

    It was especially helpful the INTJ interview (Mike) in my own personal growth. I’ve also listened to other INTJ podcasts and I have gone through the INTx program as well. You do represent a few flavors of INTJ well. So it’s helpful in developing as an INTJ.

    I also wanted to comment on your mentioning about life circumstances can impact how you look and act compared to your personality type. I grew up in a family where alcoholism and a high amount of dysfunction were present. Quick side note, I have done counseling and sought support for these issues. I’m still getting healthy function patterns that are opposed to what I learned growing up. I’m unlearning some things. People would describe me as sensitive and maybe look at me as INFJ.

    I’ve actually always tested out as an NT type. And there was some jumping around mainly with ENTJ. However, when I learned about cognitive functions and what really came the most naturally I saw Perspectives and Effectiveness. Effectiveness was easier to identify starting to show up in my teens and developing more in my 20s. But once I understood Perspectives more, I could see it showing up a lot younger in my life and I’m there almost always.

    I believe I developed some Fe, Harmony, as a survival mechanism growing up. It was a necessary survival tool. And on a social occasion, I can say it’s very awkward for me as a middle-aged man to use it.

    Your example hit home for me and I thought I’m probably not the only sensitive NT out there.

    Again, thank you for the series and everything you put out for products. I hope in the next couple of years to take the Profiler Training course. I think it would be a great tool to understand more where people are coming from and how to engage with them.

    Honestly, I was a little nervous about submitting this post. I’m hoping someone reads it and finds it helpful.

  • Kimberly Norris
    • Kimberly Norris
    • May 3, 2022 at 12:12 pm

    This was so helpful. I’ve really been struggling lately with the idea that Te might be my driver function but as an INTP it’s not even in my stack. None of the types with extroverted thinking drivers felt right. When Antonia said that you can develop functions because the world rewards you for them, a light bulb went on. My own brain rewards me for accuracy but the world rewards my effectiveness.

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