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In this podcast Joel and Antonia talk about the distinctions between a personality loop and personality subtype.
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In this podcast you’ll find:
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What does it mean to be in a loop?
- Why do Antonia and Joel find it an imperative need to have a good relationship with the Copilot (Auxiliary) function?
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What four things do all humans need?
- How do we get these needs met?
- What happens if one of these needs goes unmet?
- Why may we sometimes overlook the importance of some of these needs?
- How can we live an ergonomic lifestyle?
- What important message does Joel give?
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Why can staying in a loop seem so alluring?
- How do our life circumstances influence this?
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What one thing trips most people up and prevents us from reaching our full potential?
- What is the leverage point for most people?
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How are ideas best shared with others?
- What is the role of complexity and core principles?
- Why can creating excessive complexity be problematic?
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When is complexity beneficial?
- Curious to learn more about some of the thought leaders mentioned by Antonia and Joel? Check out John Beebe, Linda V. Berens and Dario Nardi.
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How can you use models of type in the healthiest and most impactful way?
- What is the sweet spot with knowledge and how to apply it?
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Why building upon the system sometimes is a gift but at other times can defeat the purpose of the system.
- What impacts the teacher-student relationship?
- Why is it so tempting to stay in our 10 Year Old (Tertiary) function?
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What are two Jungian perspectives that are crucial to understanding the loop dynamic?
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How can the John Beebe Eight Function Model help us understand this?
- Want to brush up on the John Beebe Eight Function Model? Check out our podcast The John Beebe Eight Function Model Of Personality.
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What roles do the four archetypes of individuation play?
- Check out our podcast Using Archetypes For Personal Growth to learn more about the four archetypes.
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How can the John Beebe Eight Function Model help us understand this?
- Why is getting into the Copilot (Auxiliary) function important?
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Check out some more of our podcasts on loops:
- Episode 0173 – Can Your Personality Loop Be Helpful?
- Episode 218 – 3 Styles Of Cognitive Function Loops (Part 1)
- Episode 219 – 3 Styles Of Cognitive Function Loops (Part 2)
- Episode 0355 – Using Your 6th Function To Break A Loop – Part 1 (ISxP – ESxJ)
- Episode 0356 – Using Your 6th Function To Break A Loop – Part 2 (INxP – ENxJ)
- Episode 0357 – Using Your 6th Function To Break A Loop – Part 3 (IxTJ – ExTP)
- Episode 0358 – Using Your 6th Function To Break A Loop – Part 4 (IxFJ – ExFP)
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12 comments
How about sub-types as a way of simply recognising different ways types show up? Doesn’t mean they are set in stone.
One thing that disappointed me in this regard was how despite having explained briefly in your book about how some people may be more fixated on the fixation of their tertiary or even inferior function than that of their dominant, you then appeared to abandon this idea in your podcasts, e.g. saying ‘if you’re an EP, you’re fixated on freedom’. It wasn’t the same thing as loops (albeit I’m sure there is some overlap), and I wanted to know more about it and whether this was why I have trouble seeing myself as INFP and even consider ISTJ sometimes.
I’m tempted to think that flitting between INFP and ISTJ might mean there is a loop ‘hole’ in the system.
I think it almost doesn’t matter how you teach a personality typology, it will alienate some people simply because its mass-produced and it can’t speak to everyone. This could possibly be more a problem of ‘framing’ or language-used than core-principles, but you are going to alienate some people simply because they don’t feel you’ve spoken to them and their experience. This is exactly how I’ve felt with every myers-briggs or JCF theorist I’ve ever tried to follow.
No one is obliged to shoe-horn themselves to the nearest fitting personality category simply because the others fit worse, and I don’t even think this is a particularly good idea. This is one reason for people keeping on flaying it out.
I also don’t think there is any particular reason to worship the John Beebe model, it’s not even like Jung specified an ordering of functions. I don’t think the so called 8th function is generally the worst or most feeble function – I think this is much more like to be the so-called 7th function. Something which a couple of reasonably-sane theorists I’ve observed on youtube have also said, not that this proves anything.