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In this episode of the Personality Hacker podcast, Joel and Antonia continue the short series with guest host Christian Rivera about Ken Wilber's framework of "Grow up, Wake up, Clean up, Show up" and how to apply it to our personality growth journey. This week we turn our attention to "cleaning up" our personality type.


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  • Prajwal
    • Prajwal
    • December 14, 2023 at 8:57 pm

    Hey guys, ENFP here been listening to the podcast for a few years now, but first time commenting. Antonia I know you love reading comments, so I guess if anyone’s reading this it’s probably you :D

    Anyway, a lot of the content of this talk really made me want to recommend this book to you guys, it’s called Positive Intelligence by Shirzad Chamine. Been around for a decade, but I really think it’s a hidden gem for content on this podcast, especially with the direction you guys have been taking. You may have come across it, but I’m pretty sure you’d have referenced it if you had, so think this would help!

    The book incorporates the Enneagram, but not as types/identities, but rather as 9 specific defense mechanisms/LIFE SABOTEURS, of which ANY could show up in anyone depending on the severity with which one learns to lean on them. The great part is Chamine focuses on a TENTH Master Saboteur he calls The Judge, which is the Ringleader for the other Nine, and really runs the show when it comes to all limiting behaviours, including EVERY vice of the 9 enneagram types / 9 saboteurs. The BEST part though, is he offers a perspective that really shifts you out of the clutches of the 10 saboteurs, called the SAGE perspective. I won’t spoil it for you, go read it! But a lot of the cleaning up in my personality today definitely comes from this model. In fact I would argue, a lot of the nuances of both shadow and persona work, those paradoxes Christian mentions, trigger awareness etc could probably be seamlessly encapsulated into this one.

    Been down the rabbit hole of type and functions and Jung and the whole enchilada.. and having been through what I believe to be my own Dark Night of the Soul, very few frameworks for growth have really stood out to me in the real embodied effectiveness of strategy, accurate representation of experience, and actual simplicity of this approach, mainly because it really ties up a lot of loose ends that I feel makes the Enneagram a slightly lacklustre model for shadow work, and cleaning up in general.

    So yeah, my first comment, and yes I ramble, but like Joel says LOOK AT HOW HELPFUL I’M BEING!
    Cheers and love from India!

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