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Myers-Briggs vs Big Five | Podcast 569
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On this episode of the Personality Hacker podcast, Joel and Antonia talk through the differences between Myers-Briggs (MBTI) and The Big 5 Personality test.
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On this episode of the Personality Hacker podcast, Joel and Antonia talk through the differences between Myers-Briggs (MBTI) and The Big 5 Personality test.
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I have an experience with the Big 5 system. I have been into MBTI for about 10 yrs and have learned an enormous amount about myself and people in general that has been hugely helpful for my personal life. 99% of that is thanks to Personality Hacker and your Podcast, so thank you for that. My friend and family and some coworkers know that I’m a big MBTI need. So when my boss asks all employees to take a Personality test prior to our next staff meeting, I was ecstatic and so excited to be bringing personal hobby to my work place. Turns out it was Jordon Peterson’s version of the Big 5 system. I take my test making a point to try to be as true and honest about my true self as I can. I did not answer the questions as it pertains to my “work personality”. The results ended up making me so distraught that I actually cried when it was all done. This was not because it was inaccurate, but because the description and interpretation of my results painted me out to be worth nothing more than a party bimbo with no value or worth. I entirely blame this on Jordan P’s (HUGE!!!!!) bias against my type and traits, and inability to see them as valuable contributors to society. (I’m an enfp) I was high on openness and extroversion, low (zero, in fact if I remember right) on conscientiousness. Iwas embarrassed to show it to my employers because if you were to judge me by that alone, they would have fired me on the spot, no second chances. I am a very good employee that brings a ton of value to my workplace, and I found Peterson’s system to be so hurtful and misleading. It wasn’t the Big 5 system that was wrong, it was his interpretation of different results. I consider myself to be pretty well developed from a self improvement point of view, but that really derailed me in such an unexpected way. Needless to say, I value MBTI over Big 5 I every way, even though I can see some value in it, just NOT J Peterson’s hugely biased version.
I highly recommend asking chatGPT to create an updated Big Five model based on today’s personality descriptors – I had a lot of fun doing so. The new Big Five I got were: Creativity, Presence, Emotional Stability, Ambition, and Composure.
I asked it to widen the parameters including datasets and I ran out of credits, so I’m sure the factors will continue refining – but since external perception and how we express that changes with the times, so too should the model.
I’m a fan of both systems (and several others). Yes, they are different and they have different strengths.
I see big five as 5 continuums. There are extremes on both ends, but most people are somewhere in the middle. For example, one continuum is explicitly labeled extroversion, but the extreme low end is implied introversion. There are benefits and drawbacks to being at each extreme.
Because it measures external, measurable behavior, it can chance over time. So for many people, the direction for growth is finding where your personality is not serving you and try to change your behavior to shift that specific needle. For example, one negative about being extremely introverted is a proclivity to negative mood, so if that’s your experience you would work on acting more extroverted. If you are highly agreeable and find that you’re being pushed-over, you work on being more aggressive (the other side of that continuum).
Each of these continuums can be broken down into 2 aspects, too. So, in a good evaluation, you get a deeper understanding of which of the two aspects plays into high or low readings.
Open – conservative
(Intellect and aesthetics)
Conscientious – spontaneous
(Industriousness, orderliness)
Extroverted – introverted
(Enthusiasm, assertiveness)
Agreeable – aggressive
(Compassion, politeness)
Neurotic – stable
(Withdrawal, volatility)
Thanks for the episode! You two really helped me see the value of Myers-Briggs, and It’s great when y’all dive into other systems!
KIm ENFP the Big 5 doesn’t tell you why a person is the way they are and can’t help improve relationships and point a person to the job that would be their best fit based on their type .Traits are developed according to the person environment . Cognitive functions don’t change we are wired differently not a big 5 model .