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In this episode Joel and Antonia dive deep into the needs and desires of the ISFJ personality type.

In this podcast on the ISFJ personality type you’ll find:

  • ISFJ – Memory/Harmony in the Genius System
  • Easy to overlook just how quirky ISFJs can be.
  • Our survey indicated just how sensitive ISFJs feel. They want to be in relationships and socialize but they find themselves getting overtaxed easily. They have a yin/yang relationship with socializing.
  • Car Model
  • Cognitive Function Stack – the mental processes you use that inform and influence your personality. Each refer to a different way you understand and experience reality.
  • The driver process is Introverted Sensing (Si), which we have nicknamed “Memory.”
  • Memory is a Perceiving process. A way to take in info and understand it. (More info on Memory here.)
  • Memory is about taking in information then post processing. A review process as opposed to in the moment.
  • Si are interested in reliability. What is more reliable than what you have already experienced? All the things you pay attention to become a part of who you are. Your memory stack.
  • These are the most adaptable types over time. You incorporate experiences and they become a part of who you are.
  • ISFJs are rather open to new info especially if they don’t feel threatened. If they have had good experiences over time and don’t face the world with fear, they can be more open.
  • ISFJs personally unique experiences craft them into the unique individuals they become.
  • They can become uber specialists if they wrap their identity around a certain hobby or skill.
  • ISFJs rely upon templates of the world. ISFJs take a new piece of info and if they have experienced it they categorize it with everything else. If there is no experience with it, they will put it on a shelf until they can ruminate on it and see how it fits in with previously held beliefs. As you mature you get better at knowing how everything fits in your world.
  • When people of this type open themselves up to new experiences they get a magnanimous relationship with novelty. They have no problem with other people choosing novelty. They don’t have an antagonistic relationship with newness. They can freely Hold back and observe.
  • An antagonistic relationship may show up for an ISFJ if they have had some trauma. If they feel the universe is hostile they will react more strongly against newness.
  • ISFJs co-pilot is Extraverted Feeling (Fe), which we have nicknamed “Harmony.”
  • ISFJs end up becoming experts of the people in their lives.
  • They are good at understanding human relationships and dynamics.
  • They are sensitive to emotional interplay and dynamics. It becomes the way they make decisions.
  • ISFJs become masters at predicting the behavior of those closest to them.
  • They will often wonder, “What can I do to smooth over the dynamics beforehand?”
  • If you are focused on Harmony and you lead with an adaptive process which incorporates other people’s behaviors, ISFJs have a similar phenomenon to INFJs. INFJs can absorb other’s emotions – even strangers – due to their iNtuitive process. ISFJs aren’t plugged into people in general, but they can be sensitive to the emotional energy of the people in their lives.
  • In fact, it is a struggle for them. “How can I hold space for my loved one without matching and absorbing their emotion?”
  • ISFJs are good for holding space for everyone they come in contact with. but they spend so much time meeting other’s needs that they take a back seat when it comes to their own needs. This can cause burnout.
  • Take the time to meet your own needs and realize that you cannot meet other’s needs if you don’t meet your own.
  • Become more sophisticated at creating better boundaries. Say no every now and then.
  • ISFJs on the survey said they feel a need to be perfect. This is not a natural tendency but it is a loop you can get caught in if you feel others are dependent upon you to create a memory or a successful event.
  • ISFJs 10-year-old process is Introverted Thinking (Ti), which we have nicknamed “Accuracy.”
  • Accuracy is concerned with metrics and data. It is Void of emotional connection. In the 10 year old level, the data comes down to things like the size of a casserole dish or making sure everything is optimized for memory creation. It can come up as perfectionism.
  • We use the 10 year old when we are feeling defensive. ISFJs want to be above reproach. Nobody can blame the ISFJ if they have done everything perfect.
  • ISFJs may cover their furniture with plastic to keep it flawless. However, When you put plastic on your couch it is not optimized for people on the couch. The original intent was to make sure everyone had a good experience, but now it has become about being above reproach. If you remove the plastic, something might spill and the couch may not be pristine but the lived in feel is what we prefer as people.
  • ISFJs need to show up the best they can and then allow other people to have whatever emotions they are going to have.
  • A healthy perspective for an ISFJ to have is, “I am going to do my part to meet people where they’re at, but I’m not going to take responsibility if they don’t have a good time.”
  • ISFJs are not responsible for everyone.
  • Accuracy is Not always a negative aspect of the ISFJ personality. Ti needs to be in support of Fe. Not the other way around. Letting Ti serve Fe would be Like choosing the best possible vantage point for the family to enjoy fireworks.
  • ISFJs often fill roles in the family as the budgeter or bill payer.
  • A lot of ISFJs can be found in early education. Or nursing and midwife roles.
  • The 3-year-old process is Extraverted Intuition (Ne), which we have nicknamed “Exploration.”
  • When ISFJs are safe they can have a very exploratory side to them. They can be into creative and possibilities thinking. Artistic. Martha Stewart type decor. Crafty. They like having a good time. A freedom side.
  • If they use this process when stressed it can show up as being very impulsive. They may crave some novelty. It’s best to use Ne as a creative outlet as opposed to an impulsive space.
  • If you are going to use your inferior process of Exploration, go ahead and paint the kitchen a different color. Don’t run off to Vegas and get married.
  • ISFJs may feel invisible at times. They become so good at getting other people’s needs met that people forget that the ISFJ has needs too.
  • ISFJs need to articulate their needs.
  • Some mentioned in the survey that they feel underappreciated for their profound institutional knowledge. They can be walking encyclopedias of info.
  • ISFJs need to speak up and share their wealth of knowledge.
  • Assertiveness is tough for ISFJs to develop. This is where Harmony can come to the rescue. It encourages them to be assertive.
  • ISFJs can adapt a little too much to situations that aren’t good. They need to create boundaries or they will allow intolerable situations to continue way too long.
  • You’re not fated to anything. You don’t have to deal with negativity and assume that is your role in life. You are allowed to be happy.
  • NLP can help you rewrite how your brain has experienced the past.
  • It is your responsibility to change your world to match your needs.
  • Real Harmony is a win/win.
  • Keep your finger on the pulse of that martyrdom complex and refuse to be a martyr.
  • In this episode Joel and Antonia dive deep into the needs and desires of the ISFJ personality type. #podcast #ISFJ #MBTI

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48 comments

  • Antonia Dodge
    • Antonia Dodge
    • June 22, 2018 at 8:38 am

    Everything’s great, Marko. I appreciate that you didn’t ‘abandon ship’ when you were initially frustrated. ISFJ women are the most common demographic in Myers-Briggs (followed by ISTJ men), so descriptions tend to reflect those numbers. But there are also plenty of ISFJ men, and I can understand why the descriptions may be disenfranchising.

    Also, while I understand that this was more about not finding male examples of ISFJs, feel free to read other type descriptions that may resonate with you. The test isn’t always 100% accurate. But if ISFJ fits like a glove, then great. :)

    A

    p.s. Would you like me to delete your other comment? Either way is fine on our end.

  • Marko
    • Marko
    • June 18, 2018 at 4:45 pm

    And oh,

    just oh no… I was just reading this article: https://personalityhacker.com/isfj-protector-personality-type/ in which I finally found some examples to which I can relate to without fear. Or denial. And I found out just what kind of on dork I can be when I’m not keeping my mouth shut. I can only say how I wish that I’ve read everything I could, first. But I’ve learned my lesson, for life. So in my learning process, while maximizing my mistakes (or so I thought) I’ve managed to maybe hurt someone feelings. And I’m seriously mad at myself because I had to read about that to became aware of the same. Like I’m 14 or something, God… I’m sorry if I have hurt anyone with my idiotic comments, I really am. I just can’t believe that I’ve realized that last. I guess, I can be a b**** even while I’m not trying to be one. Another lesson learned. I just wish I learned them alone. And yes, I saw other guys in comments, so, I guess I’m really left out of excuses here…

  • Marko
    • Marko
    • June 18, 2018 at 2:30 pm

    Well this is getting worse and worse,

    I just watched, I don’t know what I watched, honestly… This thing: https://personalityhacker.com/resources-isfj/ Well, Jesus Christ. I really am in trouble. I mean, omg! What the heck? Now I’m a grandma too? I categorically refuse to be portrayed in such a fashion. Seriously people, after I’ve seen this, you still have the nerve to say that people like me are putting too much pressure on them selves? Well, I wasn’t under any pressure before I saw what I saw. How the heck did this happen? I mean, to me. That I somehow managed to get female personality results? 4 times in a row, I’m not sure for the first type, but knowing my luck, I don’t want to go back and find out. I’ll block all females that I know, enough is enough (impossible). But, even if I could, I spend most of my time alone, so either they’re very persuasive when they have the chance, or what? Because I sure don’t consume estrogen as a spice for my meals, or something. I mean, what the heck is going on? Now seriously, are you pep’s sure that you got my result right? I’m not sure that I can relate to this stuff. I don’t bake biscuits. I don’t know how, nor I’m interested in that. Not to mention that happy images everybody has to have great life stuff. I honestly don’t feel like that. This stuff is so confusing. Are there any male ISFJ videos and resources? And I’m not talking about por* here. Are there any? If there are, maybe I could finally relate to something that I find close. This stuff, brrr, that’s scary…

  • Marko
    • Marko
    • June 18, 2018 at 11:39 am

    Hey, I saw this video already. And there’s my comment too. So, now what? Two days later… Well I guess I’m closer to this descriptions than to those I’ve found in that other type. So I’m this character then. Now, I honestly don’t know what to do with that, make myself a badge? Oh well, we’ll see what the future holds for me. But I’m not stopping wearing pants, that’s for sure. And you can forget about those plastic covers at my place…

  • Marko
    • Marko
    • June 15, 2018 at 3:08 pm

    Hi & hm,

    I’m confused. I found myself in about 20-30% of those examples and explanations. The fact is, the things in which this personalty type is good, or is prone to, are the things in which I ‘m not even close to those examples. I suck with money, not to mention institutional memory. Then, I don’t make parties, never did, or will, nor that I’m taking care that everybody has a great time. I’m not even there, and if I am (so rare), I’m shut out. I get “Where are you?” question even when I’m having coffee with people that know me for a long time. What else? Marty? Nope. Or maybe from loneliness? Destiny? Nope. Plastic covers for furniture? Who does that? Although, I do like to have everything in order. Things have their place (that’s how I always know where my stuff are). I like when everything is very clean, and arranged in my way. But people are free to do what they want, I honestly don’t care how they spend their time as long as it’s not hurting them or anybody around. I would do for people anything, it doesn’t matter if I know them or don’t. I don’t make differences among them. I just don’t need to be around them much, an hour a day is ok. Not even every day. For example, the other day, I decided t go out for a drink (I was braver that day than in general). So I went to a cafe which I know well. People and everything. And I’m sitting alone, although they all like me a lot, I like to be aside. Then I notice a kid (21) standing in front of local crew’s table and when I looked at him, I knew right away. This guy is in trouble. The local crew communicates with him like his a bit weird, or like they don’t get him. I’m in my thoughts “What is it? Why are you like that? What’s that feeling? Anxiety? Sadness? Felling lost? All of it?” Anyway, I look away continue to read a book “The reason I jump” from an autistic child about being like that. My friends son is one. Next thing I know, he’s sitting next to me and starts pouring his life story onto me. He’s schizophrenic and under medication. He feels lost and lonely. Doesn’t like what his family talks about him. Has surreal stories about himself and his connection to the world. Has no one to talk to. He just needs a friend. So, we’re friends now. Because, nobody else would. And they all know him from before. I saw him first time. I gave him my number to call me whenever he needs something, doesn’t matter what. Just, call me. That’s me. The guy who has to listen to problems of people he knows and doesn’t know. And that’s why I’m rarely among them. I just get overwhelmed. Like I have a special talent for drawing other people misery on myself. So I get just that. Social networks are the same for me, I end up depressed for days from one photo of baby who’s got cancer. So is that ISFJ? (my 1st & only result, 4th by order) Or INFJ (my result 3 times)? Or am I something else? Or bipolar? Although I like the ISFJ more, it look less damaged (perspective is in the eye of the observer). But those examples, those are hotshots for me. I’m a mouse for them. I’m getting tired and sad of trying to figure this out…

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