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In this episode Joel and Antonia talk about how different types approach creating a life plan.

In this podcast you’ll find:

  • Once you figure out your starting point, how do you craft an action plan to get you where you want?
  • Should statements live in our judging functions (T/F).
  • The Judging process also helps us chart our life path.
  • We don’t believe your MB type is the total of who you are as a person.
  • What instrument are you going to use to make sure you are creating your plan in the right way?
  • Antonia is an ENTP – her decision maker is introverted thinking (Ti) – “Accuracy.”
  • The only way we could get to the moon is by using extremely precise mathematics.
  • Every single degree was necessary to reach the moon accurately.
  • Antonia uses this to get where she wants. She uses precision. Clarity. Direction.
  • The first steps are the most important. Antonia doesn’t give much thought to the events after she sets the trajectory.
  • Joel is an ENFP – his decision maker is introverted feeling (Fi) – “Authenticity.”
  • When Joel sets a trajectory, he is focused on who he wants to be and how he intends to feel once he gets there.
  • He gets clear on the emotions he wants and uses that to craft his life path. He gets improvisational. It’s about embodying his path.
  • Antonia and Joel are perceivers, so their judging processes are introverted. So, crafting their life path is a more subjective experience.
  • Judgers have Extraverted Judging processes, so they will be more externally focused.
  • Extraverted Thinking (Te) – “Effectiveness” – is focused on creating circumstances to get to their end game. TJs will concentrate on the steps required to get them to the place they want to be.
  • Extraverted Feeling (Fe) – “Harmony” – users create a network around them of people they want to be surrounded by, influencing them on their path.
  • Each judging process has its polar opposite, which also influences it.
  • Oprah – ENFJ – has created an entire media network as a Harmony person with a lot of people (Dr. Phil, Dr. Oz, etc.) that she’s helped build their own brands. She may not know how she’s going to use this organization of people yet, (may not have had a destination in mind when she got started) but her trajectory was to create these connections just in case.
  • ENTJ – has a goal to make a huge impact in his country. He uses Effectiveness to build the resource to help his impoverished country.
  • Personality Hacker is building networks and resources to reach their goals of influencing the world for good.
  • Whenever you focus on your life path and start gathering resources, you gain a lot of benefits.
  • When we find the advice that strikes us our inner wisdom recognizes it.
  • Richard Branson “Losing My Virginity.”
  • The polarity of the Judging function affects us.
  • Antonia’s polarity is Ti/Fe she can’t discount the need to create networks in her goals as she sets her precision oriented trajectory.
  • Joel’s polarity is Fi/Te. When he realizes the kind of person he wants to be, he creates a plan to reach these aims.
  • The reverse is also true.
  • If you know your MB type and your cognitive function stack, it is going to be the polarity that influences you. Focus on the dominant one, but don’t neglect its polar opposite.
  • Car Model
  • ENFP copilot is Fi – Te is 10 yr old. They are tied together, and they affect each other.
  • The judging processes light a fire within you and keep you honest.
  • When you are looking for advice/mentorship around how to get what you want out of life, use language around whatever your judging processes are.
  • Life Path – how are you going to go about getting what you want? What is your priority?
  • The Resources you gather.
  • The person you become.
  • The network you create.
  • The trajectory you set.
  • Sometimes these unfold after you begin your journey.
  • Clarity sometimes comes as you are in motion.
  • It is not necessary to plan everything before you start.
  • Once you are in motion and you figure out what you want, use your natural tools/talents that come with your decision-making process as the means to get you where you want to be.

In this episode Joel and Antonia talk about how different types approach creating a life plan. #mbti #myersbriggs #personality

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  • Robbin
    • Robbin
    • February 3, 2021 at 8:01 am

    Hi Antonia,

    Thanks for the recommendation. I already knew about Eben Pagan but never really researched his work. Time to look him up :)

    Do you have some other recommendations for an INTP like me? Certain mentors, thought leaders, and teachers in marketing, business, and personal growth that would resonate with INTP’s and ENTP’s?

    Some people I follow that resonate with me as an INTP are:

    - Seth Godin
    - Leo Gura (
    - Vishen Lakhiani (Mindvalley)
    - Brian Johnson (

  • Lucie
    • Lucie
    • October 26, 2017 at 12:44 pm

    Thanks for explaining how concepts the other decision making processes value sort of fall into place. I always hear a lot about networking and the importance of building a network. I acknowledge this, but I rarely if ever have sought to build a network. People and connections just seem to appear in my life as I go about things. The same goes with resources and even my end goals. As I become the person I want to be, these kind of opportunities just seem to present themselves. That isn’t to say I haven’t had to seek opportunities out, but I’ve definitely noticed that they have a tendency to fall into place for me.

    As an ENFP, my Fi is definitely focused on the kind of person I want to become. In my second semester of college, I was in a communications/writing/business/rhetoric course. We opened class one day by sharing quotes we had read or heard hat really resonated with us. I don’t remember my exact quote, but it was something about impowerment and growing as a person.

    It was interesting to see how different statements resonated with different people. One of my friends who has dominant Ti shared a quote from an engineering professor of hers that talked about how his class would teach the students practical skills they would be able to actually use in their careers unlike a history course. Now, this was directed at engineering majors so it naturally wouldn’t have the same impact on people in different majors such as myself.

    We had a good laugh over the quote since I’m a history major. When we had to comment on our peers’ quotes, I joked that I would be really concerned if one of my major professors said that history wasn’t practical to me. To which the professor pointed out was a good example of how different forms of rhetoric work on different people.

    I could easily see how it resonated with my friend though. This was the path she had chosen for herself, and now she was on the path to reaching her end goal.

    There were examples of other quotes too that people saw in different ways than others. It’s not that what resonated with the others was wrong, it just fit them differently based on their view point and how they process the world around them.

  • Diane Dove
    • Diane Dove
    • December 20, 2016 at 12:14 pm

    In this podcast your mentioned finding a mentor that really resonates w/ your personality type. Any recommendations for ISFJ type?

  • Kate
    • Kate
    • November 12, 2016 at 12:41 am

    *some good

  • Hatem Aly (@metahatem)
    • Hatem Aly (@metahatem)
    • November 9, 2016 at 11:21 pm

    I LOLed when I heard you talk about the INTP mentor and thought right away “EBEN PAGAN” !!I had the same experience with several people.. I preached him and they found him boring!..I could listen to his seminars for hours and get a kick from his talks including rambling and recommendations…look up something/someone he mentioned… and could listen again and again..strange.

    But that leaves me confused a bit..I am an INFP (sometimes I get “J” in tests but I am probably a P ) and yet I relate to the way you described your path a bit more.. I usually find my curiosity or obsessions win over values or redefine it constantly for some reason..even friends that are my type I find sometimes too intense or take themselves too I just getting old? am I unhealthy?or may be I should look into enneagram?

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