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In this episode, Joel and Antonia talk about the difference between the thinking cognitive functions Introverted Thinking vs Extraverted Thinking.

In this podcast you’ll find:

  • Introverted Intuition vs Extraverted Intuition podcast
  • Sensing Personality Types podcast
  • Two judging processes:
  • Introverted Thinking (Ti) “Accuracy”
  • Extraverted Thinking (Te) “Effectiveness”
  • Car Model
  • All TPs use Introverted Thinking
  • All TJs use Extraverted Thinking
  • Both thinking processes are judging processes that prefer impersonal criteria
  • If you are a Thinker, you are going to have a Thinking process that is very influential for you.
  • Even Feelers will find this interesting because all Feelers have Thinking processes somewhere in their car.
  • Impersonal criteria = things that aren’t just about people metrics.
  • Other data is also relevant because people aren’t always a trusted resource.
  • If you are a Thinker, you aren’t a robot.
  • You may think very strongly of how you impact people, but you also know there are other influencers, too.
  • Sustainable, long game implications.
  • Thinkers are not sociopaths.
  • The Judging functions have attitudes – introverted and extraverted criteria
  • Effectiveness is a Thinking function with an extraverted attitude – Te
  • Accuracy is a Thinking function with an introverted attitude – Ti
  • An Extraverted attitude is going to base its decisions on external criteria.
  • Real world resources, timelines.
  • All thinking processes want to see impact and effect.
  • They want to determine what we should be doing.
  • Outcomes and endgames are very important to all the judging processes.
  • Effectiveness is the most tapped into how things play out in the real world.
  • What is the return on investment?
  • Did we accomplish the goal?
  • What works?
  • Effectiveness gets very good at taking in environment and context.
  • How do we have to manage people to make sure they are operating at their highest potential?
  • What is the ROI? What is the 80/20?
  • Getting Things Done by David Allen
  • The difference between a project and a task.
  • A project has multiple tasks involved with it, like changing your oil.
  • Effectiveness instinctively understands the difference between projects and tasks and can break each project into its itemized tasks.
  • Effectiveness is great in a world where tons of resources need to be managed at any given time.
  • They get really good at making quick decisions based on ROI and previously garnered metrics.
  • What is the best course of action?
  • Effectiveness understands other people’s potential.
  • The biggest challenge Te has is the tendency to look for shortcuts.
  • There is no such thing as a shortcut. Somebody is paying the price.
  • Streamlining is important, but it can prevent the TJ from learning what they need to learn.
  • Effectiveness is better than efficiency.
  • When TJs are efficient, they are hoping for a higher return with as little output as possible.
  • Effectiveness should be the gauge and efficiency should be the tool you use to get to effectiveness.
  • Acceptable loss principal = spillage
  • It can feel icky to other types, but it’s not always a bad thing.
  • We need people to think in these terms because the whole world can’t always work out ideally.
  • When acceptable spillage goes too high, then it is a sign that Effectiveness has lost its way.
  • TJs need to be very deliberate about the impact they want to make.
  • What is the endgame?
  • What works and what is good?
  • Introverted Thinking (Ti) – Accuracy
  • Accuracy is more focused on ensuring that the internal thought processes are clean and uncorrupted
  • More interested in process than result
  • The Outcome at the end isn’t necessarily a priority.
  • Internal metrics = greater subjectivity
  • Extraverted Thinking is objective = did it work or not?
  • Introverted thinking is about passing your own criteria, but its subjectivity isn’t based on feelings as much as data.
  • What is true after we have removed desire?
  • Info and data must be pure – ideally.
  • Introverted thinking likes to go back to all the programming it has received and determining its value.
  • Can I know that to be true?
  • How much info is corrupt or unnecessary?
  • How does it compare with other info I have already vetted?
  • “Neurons that fire together, wire together.”
  • Ti looks for relational pathways and false conflations.
  • Some untrue elements may be wired to true data and accepted as true due to relational involvement.
  • Accuracy is good at surgically removing the untrue info from the accurate info.
  • What info can be trusted?
  • Accuracy users can’t stop learning. They love to gather more info and root out the bad.
  • It can be hard for an Accuracy user to share accurate info with someone who chooses to reject it in preference for bad info.
  • Accuracy users needs to make sure they take in more info to add to the existing data framework.
  • Accuracy at its best is skeptical of its own thoughts.
  • If Ti takes shortcuts, the data may become corrupted.
  • Extraverted Thinking looks at the result, and Introverted Thinking looks at the process.
  • Introverted Thinking is very focused on integrity, whereas Extraverted Thinking doesn’t always see the value of integrity.
  • When new info comes into the world of a TJ, it gets categorized by whether or not it is actionable.
  • When new info comes into the world of a TP, it gets added to all the other info to be sorted and valued later.
  • When info becomes so process focused that it loses sight of impact the TP may appear to be a jerk because no one is valuing their data.
  • It may even corrupt its own data to meet the desired end.
  • Introverted Thinking may not be practical when it comes to impact.
  • Extraverted Thinking is less focused on clean process and more focused on impact.
  • Accuracy sees info as ubiquitous and abundant. It has no problem sharing info freely, which can get it into trouble.
  • Effectiveness sees info as limited. If all info is actionable, there is limited action that can be taken. Info is power, so it must be withheld.
  • Effectiveness people can weaponize info, so they assume others will do the same.
  • Accuracy is very free with info.
  • TPs hate it when the info they share is corrupted.
  • TJs withhold data and keep their cards close to their chest, so their intent is misunderstood by others.
  • Relationship to info can hijack both of these types and their interaction with the world.

In this episode, Joel and Antonia talk about the difference between the thinking cognitive functions Introverted Thinking vs Extraverted Thinking. #podcast #introvertedthinking #extravertedthinking #cognitivefunctions #MBTI

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  • Job
    • Job
    • November 9, 2021 at 10:10 am

    Great podcast!
    Personally I have always struggled with the truth. As a child ENTP in a Harmony household i’ve been lying my way through my childhood to try and please everyone. later the truth felt so liberating that I vowed never to lie again. (still not managing that and not sure if i want to anymore though).
    The truth however is getting more and more difficult as you explained, because a lot of things can be true if you cannot disprove it. (like your video game example or more recent conspiracy theories). I noticed i was getting more and more nervous by not being able to find “the truth” until I started using a more statistical approach. In that way multiple things “could be right” at the same time. Just some were more likely to be true then others. That gave me a lot of ease in my mind and I could let go of issues a lot easier.
    The restaurant anecdote triggered me too by the way. My first reaction to someone mentioning that restaurant to me would be trying to find a pattern for the emergence of that type of resaurant (near highways, certain countries, etc) not wether the person would like to go there.
    I am not even going to start about the people “freely interpreting” my given information to draw conclusions that are…. let’s say “very counter intuitive” to me, as they might be true (however unlikely).

  • Kim
    • Kim
    • October 1, 2021 at 10:45 pm

    Great podcast! Thank you. My husband has tested as a TJ and I have began to wonder if he’s more of a TP. Let’s podcast was very helpful to me in understanding the difference between introverted and extroverted thinking. My husband only heard my summary highlights but refuses to entertain the possibility of being a TP. I am convinced he sees that as “corrupt information”. Since he does not jump to take action and retest, that all only affirms what I see in him and his teal type being a TP.

  • Simone
    • Simone
    • November 6, 2020 at 3:09 pm

    So one of the worst possible situations for someone with Ti to be in, is an upbringing in a highly psychologically abusive family.

  • Andrew
    • Andrew
    • January 6, 2020 at 3:10 pm

    If I understood correctly, Te values outer results first, while Ti values inner order (truth). The question is: what makes them value things differently? It feels like they both are rewarded by inner chemistry for different things: one for effectiveness, another for accuracy. Then what determines these things which your inner chemistry rewards you the most: biology or values caused by socialization? Maybe both…

    Anyway, the current conclusion I’ve made for myself, is develop both. If your values lies in the outer world, then having both you’ll be effectiveness machine, as accuracy increases efficiency.

    Joel and Antonia, thanks for what you do.

  • Jennifer
    • Jennifer
    • February 11, 2019 at 2:19 pm

    I so relate to all of this Mary! I was known to be a stickler for semantics growing up, and nobody understood that I was actually seeking Truth, and not to be right. I’d argue as though my assumptions were correct, looking for others to share their opposing viewpoints, and yes, I do admit fault in my thinking when somebody presents a good counter argument. I felt quite alone and misunderstood, but as I’ve grown up and started to use Harmony more and more and it’s definitely more effective. Lol. However there are still times I catch myself coming off a little aggressive. I think my Ti gave me external validation in a world where me Ni couldn’t be celebrated or recognized so I over developed it. I also think I used it to test in my teenage years when I dropped Fe like a hot potato – needless to say replacing Harmony with accuracy was not very well received. Lol. Thanks for your comment!!!

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