Podcast - Episode 0302 - What Myers-Briggs Is Missing That The Enneagram Teaches

In this podcast you’ll find:

• Enneagram Workshop with Beatrice Chestnut and Oranio Paes
• Mayton Inn
• The Way of the Symbol
• Using the Enneagram symbol to deal with traumas energetically trapped inside of us
• The circle is important
• In the workshop, you begin the exercise by standing on your Enneagram number which has been placed on the floor
• The arrow lines go back and access early traumas then move forward to get a glimpse of the future.
• Joel is a 6. So he stood on the symbol at #6 then went back to 9 to shore up inner power then brought back to 6 and over to 3, which is his future.
• Everyone was there for different reasons. Some had trauma trapped in their body, and some wanted achievement.
• Interview with Beatrice and Eranio:
  • Eranio was the first president of the Brazilian Enneagram Institute.
  • Beatrice is the author of our program Enneagram Roadmap as well as the author of The Complete Enneagram: 48 Paths to Greater Self-Knowledge
  • Eranio’s phrase: “Spiritual work without psychological work is dangerous. Psychological work without spiritual work is incomplete.”
  • We need to see psychological and spiritual development as the same thing.
  • Some people do spiritual bypass by looking for spiritual experiences without doing the hard work of touching wounds and traumas.
  • Other people get too involved with psychological development and try to find wound after wound without going through the transcendental path of healing, which involves spirit.
  • People need to shift to other forms of work, techniques, and therapists, or they risk getting caught in a comfort zone.
  • Vacuum in the heart.
  • When people get interested in Enneagram, they stop short of what they need to work on to face their core issues.
  • There’s no bypass.
  • If you’re doing the work, you must face your shadow.
  • Persephone’s world.
  • The Enneagram is a profoundly spiritual tool.
  • Access higher potential thru transcending the ego
  • If you look at the Enneagram symbol, you see a time machine.
  • If you follow the arrows back, you go back in time to your childhood
  • If you go with the arrow, you go to the future.
  • When we go against the arrow, we meet our child and can get in touch with our wounds or our soul.
  • The child was more in touch with the soul
  • Arrows against are called the “soul child point.”
  • Enneagram is a holistic system where we can explore past & future. Explore psychological wounds and get in touch with the spirit
  • If people experience it physically, it makes more sense.
  • Half an hour after doing the work, some people don’t even remember doing the work because it was so intense.
  • But their bodies remember.
  • We need to trust the body more. Our society is too dominated by the mind and too disconnected from the body.
  • There are three centers of intelligence: head, heart, and body.
  • We tend to rely on one center more than the other two.
  • Any human being using only one center is not a human being.
  • We need to use all three centers
• Could there be something spiritual imbued in our work with Myers-Briggs?
• Myers-Briggs is more of a psychological tool. There isn’t much spirituality to it.
• We knew there was something incomplete in the Myers-Briggs system.
• A lot of our community are transcending a faith background or changing their relationship with it.
• Much of organized spirituality does miss the psychological piece.
• Having a profoundly religious background doesn’t guarantee a spiritual connection.
• Religion doesn’t equal spirituality.
• Many people try desperately to find spirituality in organized religion, and they are left with a void.
• How does each of us need to interact with the spiritual/sacred?
• Nothing in our world is one-size-fits-all.
• We have to follow this road, or there is going to be a big piece missing.
• It puts our brains and our soul in a vice when we try to force ourselves into a spiritual mold that doesn’t fit.
• The Enneagram is endlessly expandable.
• Imagine the Enneagram symbol as a 3D sphere.
• See numbers as stations of development as you go. Like Spiral Dynamics.
• Let’s assume most of humanity is at station one.
• Few people leave the first station of awareness.
• The masses choose not to do the work.
• Those who do the work can be the avatars for millions of others.
• Growth will never be accessible to everyone. Not everyone chooses that path.
• Be true to the message and let people interact with it in the way they will.
• “The bigger the light, the bigger the shadow.”
• The more growth work you do, the more you are stepping into the light/awareness, and you’re going to see some serious shit in your life.
• There’s an opportunity cost that comes with growth. The opportunity to live a more mundane life.
• There are benefits of living a templatized life.
• “Don’t you wish you had taken the blue pill?”
• The Enneagram symbol has shock points.
• Those who do personal growth generate a resource that becomes available to the rest of the world.
• Enneagram Instincts: Social, Sexual, Self-Preservation
  • Social: relationships, tribe
  • Self-preservation: protecting physicality. Safety
  • Sexual: survival strategies based on bonding
    • Instinctual sequence:
    • 1st: dominant,
    • 2nd: secondary,
    • 3rd: repressed
• Repressed is different than a blind spot.
• Repressed is something we don’t want to see. Like a beach ball, we keep pushing underwater.
  • Sexual repressed: The urge to merge. Merging with our subtle bodies, not just physical.
  • Self-preservation repressed: Be quiet with self. Find the sacred within. Work with basic life structures.
  • Social repressed: To be leaders. Reach out and do the thing they resist the most – to be seen.
• The dominant instinct’s first work is to live it fully. Respect the animal.
• Then stop the instinct from over functioning. Tame it.
• The conceits of each type.
• All the fears and concerns we struggle with are the things that our type does the best.
• Beatrice/Eranio online resources
• A lot of Carl Jung’s concepts were spiritual.
• “Do you know why insights come at 1:30 in the morning? It’s when we are the least stubborn.”
• Is there a spiritual aspect to Myers-Briggs?