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In this episode, Joel and Antonia talk with “Neuroscience of Personality” author Dr. Dario Nardi about personality types changing over time.

In this podcast you’ll find:

  • Guest host Dr Dario Nardi joins.
  • What do we mean when we ask “do personality types change?”
  • Defining “personality” and “personality type”
    • Classic definitions and the trait model – looks at the surface
    • Psychological type is systemic
  • The tree metaphor – change versus development.
  • Criticisms of type due to the fixed identity mindset.
  • Why the superpower of type is that it’s developmental.
    • Some thoughts on mindsets and how healthy and unhealthy people of the same type seem different.
    • The importance of a good foundation and systemic approach
  • How change of personality is really greater self-awareness.
  • The etymology of type.
  • Dario talks about some type developmental studies that have taken place over the years:
  • What’s not inborn and how does that make a difference in type?
  • Looking at type as a map and not a label.
  • Why do some people think type is unscientific?
  • The goal of type is to use it as a developmental model.
  • The concept of “The Magic Diamond” – Dario explains.
    • What is “the empty space” and how do we fill it?
  • The role of cognitive function embodiment exercises at the Profiler Training live events.
  • Dario uses an INTJ example to explain the role of the environment in making them show up differently, e.g. their career.
  • The baseball metaphor – how differentiation is needed before integration.
  • Why does growth stop earlier for some people?
  • The importance of integrating functions and how this blending leads to the “transcendent function”.
  • The reason we need sequence and strategy when approaching growth.
  • “Your temperament is your strategy for change”.
  • Some thoughts about using type to let yourself off the hook.
  • Dario’s new book – The Magic Diamond: Jung’s 8 paths for self coaching is now available

In this episode, Joel and Antonia talk with "Neuroscience of Personality" author Dr. Dario Nardi about personality types changing over time. #myersbriggs

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  • Claire-Emilie
    • Claire-Emilie
    • January 4, 2021 at 5:38 pm

    What about the enneagram? Is it possible to climb the scale of development of one type up to the point that one is no longer attached to the ego characteristics of he/her initial type?

  • Clarkie
    • Clarkie
    • October 24, 2020 at 6:45 pm

    Am I understanding correctly the diamond example?
    We move out towards one side (first base in the baseball diamond version), at first prompted by the 40-50% genetic disposition, in order to learn, practice, understand and experience the feature in isolation before then incorporating the other side (in this case extroversion) into our lived behaviours…
    And this experience of moving out to the extreme before coming back into balance can happen with any of the dicotomyse. It can be a genetic push into flow state. it can also be an intentional self-challenge, or environmental circumstance, that creates growth opportunity.

    Finally, where the baseball diamond example fails is that we are not rounding the bases and returning to the starting point of home base. Instead, what was 2nd base becomes the new starting point which we can explore further that same relationship between (in this case introversion and extroversion) but we have the options to go wither way and experiment, learn, experience and understand one side in isolation before bringing the two back into harmony.

    Examples: Project manager, who has an introverted pilot, has finished the planning of a conference and is for the duration of the event in a very intense extroverted state. After the event they can find some peace, recharge and then having learned form that week of intense extroversion, has grown in their auxilery area and can incorporate that into their ‘personality’

    Alternative Example. A person who leads with a feeling decision making process goes to university in a program where they are asked to think, reason and argue using information, data and facts. While this is more challenging for them than a thinker, the long period of the 4 year program is a growth in themselves and by the end they are able to bring that thinker aspect back into balance with the feeling to create growth in themselves.

  • Jodie
    • Jodie
    • September 18, 2020 at 11:30 pm

    Could you direct me to any resources regarding those exercises which combine the use of two Cognitive functions?
    I’m typed as an INTJ, and I’m very curious what a Ni + Se activity looks like…
    Thank you~

  • Prunelle
    • Prunelle
    • July 16, 2020 at 7:07 pm

    Very interesting podcast, I love how it talks about the applications of MBTI, and how it is a means to an end (personal development – develop your auxiliary ! ) and not an end in itself (however immensely engrossing it may be)… Thank you for this brilliant conversation !

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