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In this episode, Joel and Antonia talk with guest host Christian Rivera about using your 6th cognitive function in your stack to break a loop. This episode (Part 3) covers the INTJ, ISTJ, ESTP, and ENTP personality types.

In this podcast you’ll find:

  • Joel, Antonia & INTP co-host, Christian Rivera from DOPEamine, shares more loop breaking hacks for ISTJs, INTJs, ESTPs and ENTPs.
  • Check out Part 2 of this series for helpful podcasts to understand loops and cognitive functions.
  • Why loops are so easy to fall into.
  • How the 6th function is so useful for overcoming loops.
  • Breaking loops for IxTJs :
    • Why safety and reliability are so important for you.
    • How IxTJs merge performance with identity.
    • Ways your Introverted Feeling (Tertiary) can run over your Extraverted Thinking (Auxiliary).
    • Why your Introverted Feeling can paralyze you.
    • Getting your Introverted Thinking (6th function) to jump start your Extraverted Thinking.
    • Understanding Introverted Feeling vs Introverted Thinking.
    • Why Introverted functions are subjective.
    • What INTPs are doing that can help INTJs.
    • The reasoning exercises that move you forward.
  • Ways ExTPs can break a loop:
    • Defining when you are in a loop.
    • The effects of Extraverted Feeling (Tertiary) taking over your Introverted Thinking (Auxiliary).
    • What trolling, heroism and codependency have to do with ExTP loops.
    • How you hand yourself over in your relationships.
    • Getting your Extraverted Thinking (6th function) to kick you back into gear.
    • The time hack that helps you audit the outcomes in your life.

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  • Tess
    • Tess
    • March 7, 2021 at 5:19 pm

    This was a very interesting idea and resonated very well with my experience of people in my life. I would like to add (correct me if you think I’m wrong) that apart from trolling or playing the hero, Fe loops for ExTP often manifest as status thinking, being overly focused on their position in a group or the opinion of their superiors in a work setting or other dominant people in their lives.

  • Zac
    • Zac
    • December 3, 2020 at 10:37 am

    Yeah, it’s been a bit of an about-face for me. I was SO sure I was INFP.
    Lately I’ve come to respect Si, and see in it my eternal desire to place different perspectives, interpretations and worldviews alongside one another. Not to prove a point but just for the enjoyment of showing that what this person/group/language/system conceives of as X, is understood as Y by other people/groups/languages/systems.
    I can also acknowledge the craving of my long-neglected Te to get things done.

    My wife is more obviously ISTJ…so I had an example right in front of me yet still identified as INFP? Well now when I look more closely I can see that trauma makes me wary of conventions, traditions, and assumptions. Hyper-vigilance keeps me looking for alternative interpretations. And having grown up with chaotic dysfunctional parents, my Si has lots of very strange data points to take as precedents.

    My frequent internal debates could be described as seeking to “win” but I think they are ultimately about past trauma and trying to justify/explain my point of view in the face of a profoundly invalidating family environment.

    Anyway I don’t know if you too have suffered trauma and that might explain your confusion also; or if not, maybe there are subtypes within ISTJ who are simply more active in their 3rd and 4th for some unrelated reason?

    Regardless, I am with you understanding vs winning : ) I find understanding soooo satisfying!

  • Justine G
    • Justine G
    • November 28, 2020 at 1:20 pm

    I think this is only the 2nd time I’ve come across someone else who was confused between INFP and ISTJ – I think this is the most used function set for me. I’m near 50/50 for F-T, but only a bit more decisive for N-S. Introversion is more compelling on 65.4% (averaged over 5 different tests), with Judging averaging 61.7%.

    I do have ‘internal’ debates as Joel and Antonia discussed, but they are more typically along the lines of trying to win an argument rather than balancing both sides. But that said, it is probably rare that one side is 100% ‘correct’, and I would very much like the whole culture to change so it is more about ‘understanding’ than about ‘winning’.

  • Zac
    • Zac
    • November 23, 2020 at 12:25 pm

    Great podcast. I think you’re describing what I’ve been doing in the process of healing complex trauma/CPTSD.
    When I’m dealing with a flashback or severe emotional distress I reach for an internal framework to orient me until I can make sense of what is going on and shift that instance of trauma. In other words, I think it through systematically until I can change the underlying beliefs that are causing the negative emotion.
    I didn’t know this was Ti. Thanks for the podcast.

    On a side-note, I used to think I was an INFP who got pushed into using Si and Te due to a difficult upbringing. But as I discovered how actually abusive and traumatic my experience was, it now seems that I am an ISTJ who resorted to Fi and Ne when my Si and Te were sabotaged and traumatised. Yeah, I thought I had powerful Ne, but I think it was more a combination of hyper-vigilance and using Si to try to understand everyone else’s ways of thinking.

    This sixth-function stuff is fascinating, but it does raise the prospect that under sufficient degrees of trauma its not going to be possible to type someone. My hope is that as I feel better and become happier, whatever emerges is most likely my true type, given that it requires more energy/effort to access less conscious functions.

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