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In this episode, Joel and Antonia talk about the value of deconstructing your narratives and replacing them with systems thinking.

In this podcast you’ll find:

  • What happens when we use old narratives or scripts to explain new technology?
    • How do we understand what is happening technologically around us?
    • Why our minds’ scripts aren’t ready for these technologies.
    • Why the rise in cryptocurrency is making us scramble.
    • What is digital scarcity and why is it being created?
    • What rules have to do with technology.
  • How powerful our narratives really are.
    • What exactly are our narratives?
    • Why do humans like narratives so much?
    • Why understanding our stories is so crucial.
    • When new tools or technologies threaten our narratives.
  • Knowing the difference between tools and narratives.
    • When we seek narratives instead of understanding tools.
    • Why we often look for “shoulds” in our lives.
    • What narrative do Te (Effectiveness) types use that make them so good in business?
    • What other narratives are more abstract in our lives?
    • Understanding Myers-Briggs® as a tool.
  • Ways we choose our narratives.
    • The particular cognitive functions that deeply define everyone’s personal narratives.
  • When our narratives are too simple.
    • Why the first automobiles and cryptocurrency are so similar.
    • What is black box thinking?
    • Does black box thinking damage the human mind?
    • When people turn Myers-Briggs® into a narrative.
    • The very dangerous thing we each are doing.
  • What Myers-Briggs® and David Kiersey did with Jungian teachings.
    • What happens when concepts are packaged for accessibility?
    • The resistance Personality Hacker has with narratives.
  • How do we break from our attachment to our narratives?
    • Are we our stories?
    • The purposes in deconstructing our narratives.
    • What attachment, or lack thereof, means to us.
    • Ways our identity gets tangled with our narratives.
    • Why disagreement between narratives is so intense.
  • Comparing modern narratives to the past.
    • Is shallow thinking overrunning us today?
    • The modern challenge we face for our narratives.
    • Who are we letting influence us?
    • What modern academia got mixed up.
  • Do any of us really become ‘woke’?
    • When you gain a meta-perspective from your narratives.
    • What your assumptions have to do with all this.
  • When we experience a ‘narrative vacuum.’
    • Why technological disruption is getting so hard on us.
    • Is idiocracy around the corner?
  • Is there hope in all the complexity we face?
    • Seeking the antidotes to these narrative difficulties.
    • Why you can do these 3 things to make a significant change.
    • The crucial thing we each can do right now.

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  • Antonia Dodge
    • Antonia Dodge
    • May 4, 2021 at 2:05 pm

    It’s easy to pick on society. It’s much more difficult to turn this level of criticism on your own narratives.


  • Leeann
    • Leeann
    • April 30, 2021 at 3:38 pm

    Great episode. Seems like this episode prompted the recall of favorite quotes for everyone. For me, it brought to mind one of my many favorites from Kevin Smith’s 1999 film, Dogma.

    Rufus: I think it’s better to have ideas. You can change an idea. Changing a belief is trickier. Life should be malleable and progressive, working from idea to idea permits that. Beliefs anchor you to certain points and limit growth; new ideas can’t generate. Life becomes stagnant.

    Great episode, inspiring, thought provoking, and unexpectedly nostalgic. :) Thanks!

  • Per Emil Svare
    • Per Emil Svare
    • April 29, 2021 at 12:52 pm

    Narratives is really interesting. I recommend the book “Narrative Change: How Changing the Story Can Transform Society, Business, and Ourselves”

  • Joe Schmo
    • Joe Schmo
    • April 27, 2021 at 3:54 pm

    Favorite podcast. Favorite episode. Very relevant. Gateway to understanding and compassion found.

  • Josette
    • Josette
    • April 26, 2021 at 9:39 pm

    Loved the ideas discussed in this episode. Reminds me of my favorite quote: “if everybody is thinking alike, then somebody isn’t thinking.” Similarly it reminds me of what I’ve heard called the second singularity – where we rely so much on technology that we lose expertise. After awhile no one is left who understands the code and those people who don’t understand the code or ideas behind the tool are the ones training everyone else. Massive mistakes ensue. The second singularity is happening to the industry I work in – which is, sad to say, a scientific industry. Scientists should be furious about this. And free thinkers should be furious about outsourcing thought for profit. Or for anything. I’m anti-anti. ?

    I think what makes conversations discussing different world views difficult is when they get low and cutting. A lot of people don’t want to talk to someone who says they are an idiot for thinking differently. Similarly people don’t want to be ostracized for thinking. If behind idealism is forgiveness and compassion then that includes leaving the zero sum game. Adopting a scientific mind is one route toward doing that – where the goal is only to get closer and closer to the truth.

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