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In this episode, Joel and Antonia chat with enneagram expert Dr. Beatrice Chestnut about her experience with Myers-Briggs® at the Personality Hacker Profiler Training live event.
In this podcast you’ll find:
- Guest host Dr. Beatrice Chestnut joins.
- Beatrice’s experiences as an Enneagram expert diving deeper into Myers-Briggs® at our Profiler Training live event.
- How does Beatrice initially think the two systems may correspond?
- The complexities of matching up the two systems – and why this isn’t simply a 1-1 correlation.
- What was it like for Beatrice to be profiled live on stage?
- The additional insight Beatrice gained through understanding her Myers-Briggs® type at a deeper level.
- What are some more challenges of merging the two systems?
- How do some of the enneagram types initially seem to match up with the cognitive function descriptions?
- The correspondences Joel and Antonia have found between their Myers-Briggs® and Enneagram types.
- Why is it possible that the two systems match up more closely in their “prescription” than in their “description”?
- How the instinctual variations of the Enneagram types bring additional nuance.
- Diving deeper into how the systems align – plus how the functions lower in our stack could align with our Enneagram type.
- A note on finding growth paths – the power of discovering your type in both systems.
- Find Dr. Beatrice Chestnut at https://cpenneagram.com
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I’ve thought about MBTI/enneagram connections as well. I’m Ne auxiliary. First, I have to say reading descriptions of INFPs on website, they sound very 692 (maybe not that order) tritype. The descriptions may say something about the INFP deep inner life, importance on relationships, the rose colored glasses. I’m INFP and 692 so/sx. So, there’s no doubt I can blur the two. I was even wondering as I listened to the previous podcast on how the loud cognitive function is not always the driver. My take is that MBTI can point to a path of flow or using our strengths but enneagram opens up our shadow and subconscious part of ourselves. The not so nice part. I suppose the loop in MBTI is operating out of weakness of cognitive functions but the whole enneagram focus seems darker. Therefore it makes sense to me that our not so confident functions may have helped shape our coping skills. As an aside I tend to think of type 4 as being very aesthetic focused, and it makes sense to have Se in the stack. But that’s more painting with a broad brush because I’ve noticed INFJ and ISFP 4s on celebrity lists.
Can someone from the podcast (Dr. BC, AD or JMW) give a definitive answer to the question: MUST THERE BE A CORRELATION BETWEEN MBTI AND ENNEAGRAM TO BE A VALID COMBINATION? Those of us in the wild west of the internet have been dealing with grifters and taxonomists of the world who strictly believe that, say if you are a dominant Fi user, for example, you absolutely cannot be a 3, 7, or 8 (basically an assertive type). For once, I’d like to have a solid source like PH to point back to for an unequivocal answer on less common type combinations that are still valid—or not.
FWIW, I’ve been typed by Dr C and PH (Melissa Harris) so I’d be happy to contribute data.
Last week we had Melissa, this week we have Beatrice. All the OGs coming out for these podcasts. Love the direction these podcasts have been heading in these past couple of months.