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In this episode, Joel and Antonia use Carl Jung’s cognitive function model in an alternative way to map your personal growth path.

In this podcast you’ll find:

  • Why it can be overwhelming to undertake personal growth work.
    • How even type-based advice comes with an abundance of options.
  • Joel shares a powerful analogy for identifying where you are – and where you want to go in your personal growth.
  • Why it’s difficult to find the next “lily pad”.
  • What are the 4 main categories of personal growth work?
  • How pain can be the impetus for getting started on your personal-growth journey.
  • Antonia shares how you can use the 8 cognitive functions to assess how you are doing in each area of life – regardless of your type.
  • The role of The HAT Model in personal-growth work – check out our 3-part series on the model here.
  • “You have to keep the freeway open” Joel explains why it can be difficult to do growth work while life keeps on going.
  • Joel introduces another framework you can layer over the HAT model.
  • Why diagnosis matters when it comes to personal-growth work.
  • Antonia explains how one of Jung’s models can help you identify your personal-growth needs.
  • Which model should you choose if you’re looking to narrow down your options or don’t have time to explore multiple models?
  • How personal-growth tools apply to the HAT model.
  • Which areas of personal-growth work is our course catalog designed for?
  • Some final thoughts on why we use type for personal growth.

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  • Heather Coffman
    • Heather Coffman
    • December 4, 2021 at 7:15 pm

    I just want to say how encouraging this episode was for me. I’m not sure if it is intended to be so, but just hearing this message is actually a step in my personal growth. I have been learning about personality, starting with the Enneagram, for a couple of years now. I’m really only familiar with Myers-Briggs and Enneagram, so I didn’t necessarily pick up everything you were laying down about the other models, although you did explain some of them pretty well. However, the specifics of the episode are only part of the reason it was so helpful. I am an INTJ, and am in the process of gleaning information about personality, which is such a fascinating and useful subject. As such, I can get completely overwhelmed with the many resources and opinions out there. For a while now I have, at times, felt like I was drowning in information without being sure which way was up; although, I was positive I had stumbled upon something truly excellent. The bright side for me is, if I keep at it, in my opinion I am fairly good at vetting. I am currently in the process of vetting various sources from which to focus my learning. I find that for me, I like to survey the landscape and home in on, eventually, a single source, if possible, of solid information. I feel that, when learning something new and complicated it’s important to have a good guide. At some point, you have to be able to abandon yourself a bit to a leader of some sort and choose to trust them. This episode helped me in that way. I try to find the most expert, thorough, honest, broad, deep, and developed sources of information I can find. Not that one can ever know if they’re finding the true north of all of that, or that one source could possibly provide it, but Personality Hacker seems to tick a lot of those boxes for me. I’m looking forward to learning more. I love the passion coupled with expertise coupled with humility and candidness I find here.


  • Justine G
    • Justine G
    • December 4, 2021 at 1:29 pm

    Thanks Guys,

    I agreed with everything except the implication (if I’ve got this right) that you can always find someone online with the same problem as you. This depends not only on how common – rare the problem but also on being able to put a problem into just the right words – this can be harder than you realise, for several reasons. Even now not everyone will have an already recognised problem with an established name to hang it on. Until you find examples of other people with the same or a similar-enough problem, you are for all intents and purposes completely alone.

    I like how you have implied that being ‘healthy’ or even ‘transcended’ in one aspect of yourself does not necessarily mean all the rest is at a similar level. I think this is a very important point, not only for people attaining higher health in one area, who might be tempted to over-generalise this to their general health, but also for anyone who feels they are in a psychologically hopeless situation. You may be able to work on other areas that could also do with improving but that don’t feel as ‘hopeless’, be they psychological or physical, that may later on better enable (leverage?) improvement in those apparently hopeless areas that seemed too difficult to tackle directly.

    (Sometimes trying to explain things to others helps refine my own thinking, thanks for allowing this space).

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