Personality Types And Uncertainty | Podcast 0435

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  • Justine G
  • June 3, 2022 at 12:24 pm

  Joel appeared to be saying that we had certainty around anything connected with our primary function, and gave Fi as an example (e.g. values, motivations etc.).

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  • Ryan INFP
  • June 3, 2022 at 9:35 pm

  Yes but its not a comparison of type as an individual its the function that your most confident with you will be most certain with.. I suppose. This is comment that was wrote on here i think it relates to what your saying.I think all introverted functions (Si, Fi, Ti, Ni) look for reductionist answers to things, and reductionism likes to boil things down to their simplest parts.

  The extroverted functions (Ne, Se, Fe, Te), by contrast, look at outcomes. Outcomes can be infinite. And if the outcomes are not infinite, they are at least not the sum of their parts, and for that reason, complex.

  Take the game of chess. Trying to understand how the game works in a reductionist fashion by understanding what pieces are available and how the pieces are allowed to move is pretty simple, straightforward and definable.

  Trying to understand how the game works by understanding all the different possible plays…well, its difficult and not straightforward; there are more possible outcomes in chess than atoms in the universe. This why we can teach a computer how to play the game of chess but not how to always win.

  Its from our introverted functions that we derive something solid and unchanging to anchor ourselves to, such as memories and traditions, morals and values, facts and symbols.

  Its from our extroverted functions that we understand the game play of life.

  People with dominant Ni find comfort in anchoring themselves to reductionist time, which is why don’t have the NP struggle of thinking of a million ways something could happen. Once we figure out what the most likely thing is, its very hard to budge or imagine another possibility.

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  • Ryan INFP
  • June 2, 2022 at 8:15 pm

  I fully agree with your comment but did i miss something.

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  • Justine G
  • June 2, 2022 at 12:31 pm

  Hello Ryan INFP,

  From all that I have gathered, between Personality Hacker and other prominent theorists, Fi (much like Ti) is something that someone with this as the ‘primary function’ typically feels the need to ‘thrash out’, over an indefinite period, perhaps a lifelong process. This is because they require more ‘nuance’ around this function than those who prefer other functions. As a consequence, things like identity, values, feelings and motivations are also worked out with more nuance, for example, with more sensitivity to context, compared to say, someone with Fi in the so-called ‘inferior’ position.

  Thus ironically, sometimes ETJs may have (or believe they have) a more certain view of things like their identity and values than some IFPs, because ETJ views around these things are often more black and white, and less open to question.

  Similarly, it is unlikely an IFP will come ‘out the box’ already with a clear idea of all of their own and other people’s motivations. How quickly they will come to master this skill will also vary a lot between individuals. Yet again, ETJs may believe they understand motivations better than they actually do, while IFPs often maintain more uncertainty around it as they are still working it all out.

  I do respect what PH are doing so apologise for being negative about a podcast you enjoyed.

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  • Ryan INFP
  • May 31, 2022 at 5:41 pm

  What is wrong Justine G.