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In this podcast Joel and Antonia chat about the deeper differences between sensing and intuition.
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In this podcast you’ll find:
- What are some current trends of how Sensors and iNtuitives are viewed?
- Why is it important to acknowledge the nuances between Sensors and iNtuitives?
- How do Sensors and iNtuitives desire to understand the world?
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The definition of Sensing
- The two styles of Sensing: Sensation (Extraverted Sensing) and Memory (Introverted Sensing).
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Why might the current world be challenging for Sensors?
- What important asset can Sensors bring to the world right now?
- What is the nucleus of what it means to be a Sensor?
- How has our connection to the sensory world changed and how does it affect us?
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The definition of iNtuition
- What’s at the nucleus of being an iNtuitive?
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How do iNtuitives understand the world?
- What’s a pitfall for iNtuitives?
- How does iNtuition benefit the world?
- The two styles of iNtuition: Perspectives (Introverted iNtuition) and Exploration (Extraverted iNtuition).
- Why does iNtuition and Sensing need to rely on each other to be complete?
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I really appreciate your point about how the world as it is is currently undervaluing sensors and a sensory experience. I would take it a step further and say that current culture is catering to a very unhealthy manifestation of intuition.
There is an element to it all that is constantly chasing after the new thing, and it’s really impossible for anyone to fully keep up with. I’ve spoken to elderly individuals who have expressed that the constantly changing technology is very difficult for them, and I think it’s starting to become difficult for everyone.
We need more finely tuned access points to the new technologies and time to adjust. And sometimes things don’t need to be completely overhauled, which is a lesson of Si that is super undervalued.
I’ve also learned that intuition, similarly to what I’ve noticed with Ti, is thrown around a lot but in a manner that is incredibly sloppy. And, even though it drives my Ne-dominant brain crazy, I don’t think it’s only sensors doing this. There’s such a rush to apply the same paradigms to everything, to understand deeper meaning: that people grab these tools and try to apply them without really thinking it through.
One example I saw online recently was a discussion about how stealing historical and cultural artifacts from other cultures is unethical. This seems like a straightforward conversation to have. But then someone went and over generalized it to mean “Oh so that means displaying historical artifacts is inherently racist and colonialist.” The person was using abstract and complex terms, but then completely stretching the boundaries of what was meant. It was a conversation about ethical acquisition, not about whether it’s okay to put a piece of 3,000 year old pottery in a museum.
So I’ve seen people using large paradigms and complex systems to try and generalize experiences and models of human nature that do not necessarily apply. A big one I’ve seen that, as an ENFP, my Ne pushes back hard against it “If you believe in x paradigm, you’re a bad person.”
Most paradigms I see as inherently neutral, and any “good” or “bad” nature depends on application. I do believe there are some inherently harmful paradigms such as racism and sexism. However, I don’t think these should be used as maps to dictate your perception of or terrain of an entire person. There are too many nodes in the system to ever truly say [for example] “John Doe voted for x candidate, so he’s a terrible person and part of the problem.” It discounts the complex motivations behind any decision.
I can disagree with decisions, sometimes vehemently, but that doesn’t mean I should define people by their worst choices. Humans have the ability to grow and change, and denying that is just making problems of polarization 100 times worse.
[Of course, I also recognize that this rhetoric typically comes from people who are deeply hurt. However, I don’t think that invalidates criticism as my philosophy is that anything and everything is open to constructive critique.]
It also doesn’t account for how we experience people in different ways. There have been plenty of people throughout history who were gigantic assholes, but are remembered fondly by those who did not experience them as an asshole.
But that’s just me on my systems thinking horse, yelling at a cloud at about how, in an attempt to understand the complex and non-empirical, nuance is so very easily thrown out the door.
I would say this is a cultural problem, as I’ve seen both sensors and intuitives fall into this trap.
The maps, systems, and paradigms are not the end all be all. I’ve noticed this more and more. It isn’t easy as an intuitive to process it.
I think of paper towns. Cartographers would, in an attempt to protect the originality of their work, map towns that did not exist. That way if someone stole their work, they could use that as evidence in court. This also led, however, to people trying to find these places and finding none. You think there is going to be a town, but you find nothing. I think this illustrates how we can’t fully rely on any one system or paradigm to explain everything. And that’s why the world needs Si and Se because the experiential can help us in ways the conceptual cannot.
You guys nailed it as usual. Add even more weirdness when you consider pure-text communication, especially chatroom drama. Like with nothing but text and emojis and maybe animated GIFs, the amount of intuitive contribution to the experience with its own shadow of bias is mindboggling.
Also loved the example of Introverted Intuition “filling in the shadows” of physical experience, I suspected that was one way it worked but never thought of it as such a real-time contributor.
Hey guys, I’m an ESTP and having just listened in today I gotta say I get what you’re saying about how the digital world is challenging for sensors.
Last night I was interviewed in a podcast with my dev team, and having been our third podcast I’ve started to form an impression of what the experience is like.
What I said to my teammates afterwards was "I’m usually very comfortable in most conversations and social environments, but I find that when talking in video chat and voice chat formats, something about it offsets me.
I think that it’s the lack of physical presence. Without being able to physically see the people I’m communicating with there are certain details that are just missing.
It leaves me feeling like I’m suddenly perceiving at 25%. And with that loss it’s harder for me to chime in and speak off the top of my head like I often do. According to my teammates I seemed fine, but I still think if the interview was in person I would have participated at a higher level.
There’s something about actual present reality that cameras and microphones just loose in translation.