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In this podcast Joel and Antonia talk about the distinctions between a personality loop and personality subtype.


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  • Antonia Dodge
    • Antonia Dodge
    • August 15, 2022 at 8:00 pm

    Thanks for the sharing the podcast. :)


  • Jared Vaughan
    • Jared Vaughan
    • August 12, 2022 at 10:42 am

    This was a much needed Podcast that I shared with 18 different Facebook groups.

    Don’t forget too that the more you grow your strong right armed parent (2’nd function) your strong left armed critical parent (6’th function) grows with it in shadow form.

    Whereas the shadow of the 3’rd function, the trickster, is our weakest function. And has minimal potential for growth.

    Because remember according to Darionardi’s brain scans and the Socionics 4-dimensional model the 4 strongest functions are the 1st/2’nd/5’th/6’th.

    The only reason in MBTI the 3’rd and 4’th are higher in the stack than the 5’th and 6’th is because the 3’rd and 4’th are preferred (and more valued) in decision making.

    Essentially the 3rd and 4th are stand alone functions. Whereas the stronger 5th and 6th are slaves to the 1st and 2’nd.

    The only exception to this, is when through trauma, we become shadow focused. And then the 5th and 6th are favored in decision making over the more vulnerable/peace loving 3’rd and 4’th functions in order to fight some outside aggression.

    For an INTP, this that has happened to me when excessively worrying about my Te status and forming Ni tunnel vision to achieve that status through breaking through Se barriers to feel good about myself (Fi.) Without opening my mind to better Ne possibilities and having the Si patience to focus instead on how I can better add value to people’s lives (Fe.) Which would then have allowed me to better achieve (Te) and follow a more clear Ni path.

  • Nancy Jaynes
    • Nancy Jaynes
    • July 28, 2022 at 10:30 pm

    I believe I heard you, Antonia, refer to having strong negative opinions on alternate or newer “offshoot Enneagram” theories. I am a huge proponent of Enneagram Tritype theory because I know that my Six is my second in command, right behind my core Four. Beatrice Chestnut, who you’ve featured in your programming, is fabulous, but she’s a purist. For some people, the Core type is quite dominant, but for many others, like me, the second type in the Tritype is a close second, and in that case, a purist approach doesn’t fully fit. I do hope you’ll look into it further. Thanks!

  • Heidi Shuler
    • Heidi Shuler
    • July 27, 2022 at 11:31 pm

    Such a great podcast! This helped me see and understand a lot, but it also brought up a question for me. Is it possible to overuse your auxiliary function? Or to be too dependent on it? I ask because as I review my life (especially through my journals as I reread them but also just through introspection), I can see how Fe was my dominant for a long time but that’s not because I’m a dom Fe user but because I leaned so heavily on it in an unhealthy way to make everyone else’s life so much better because I could readily see their needs and go to the rescue. So it was definitely unhealthy, and I feel like I had to get better boundaries around that function, but I only really can look back and see an Ni/Ti loop that lasted for a long time when I was in high school and really it came out in my journaling more than in action (I’ve definitely had sporadic episodes of the loop since but I still feel like my lifelong problem is an unhealthy over-dependence on my aux than a loop). I would love to understand this better.

  • Antonia Dodge
    • Antonia Dodge
    • July 28, 2022 at 2:59 pm

    I definitely believe there are different flavors of all the types. Right now I’m most aligned with Dario’s concept around ‘analytic’ and ‘holistic’ versions of the each of the cognitive functions, and how our preferences for these versions create very different styles of the types. (Dominant, creative, normalized and harmonizing, respectively.) And career choice is very influential in these styles.

    Thanks for the comment.


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