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In this episode, Joel and Antonia introduce Dr. John Beebe’s Eight Function Model of Personality and discuss its usefulness for personal growth.

In this podcast you’ll find:

  • The value of coaches – Joel explains why he and Antonia sought out personal coaching from John Beebe on his Eight Function Model Of Personality.
  • Antonia’s plan for how this model will make its way from their personal growth journeys into the personal growth content they produce.
  • How do you identify your shadow-function stack? Check out our article on The Car Model as a base to learn about your first four functions.
  • Introducing the concept of topos – viewing the 8 functions as archetypal energies, based on their position in the stack.
  • What are the names John has given to each of the 8 function positions?
  • Understanding the interplay of the 8 functions through the “axis of self versus the axis of relating”.
  • Diving into the energy and role of each of the 8 functions:
    • The Driver (dominant) function: The Hero – thinking of this as the function we use to save the world.
    • The Copilot (auxiliary) function: The Parent – understanding the mother/father energy this brings, and its relational qualities.
    • The 10-Yr-Old (tertiary) function: The Eternal Child – why this function is insecure and seeking validation, in spite of skill development.
    • The 3-Yr-Old (inferior) function: The Anima/Animus – learning to understand the amplification this function is seeking.
    • The shadow functions: understanding them in terms of their “choreography” rather than “development” – and what you need to consider when exploring them.
    • The 5th function: The Opposing Personality – the avoidant nature and multiple faces of this function.
    • The 6th function: The Senex/Witch – the role of withering authority.
    • The 7th function: The Trickster – why this function uses child-like tricks to attempt to get its needs met.
    • The 8th function: The demon – why this function can embody both darkness and light.
  • Questions to ask yourself to identify when a shadow function may be presenting itself.
  • Some final thoughts on the messages we receive from our shadow functions.

Dive deeper into John Beebe’s work on The Eight Function Model in his book: Energies And Patterns In Psychological Type: The Reservoir Of Consciousness

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  • Antonia Dodge
    • Antonia Dodge
    • March 2, 2022 at 11:00 pm

    So glad it’s been helpful. ?


  • Eric
    • Eric
    • March 2, 2022 at 5:42 pm

    Dang. The idea of Te doms – there is a former ESTJ manager on my mind – regards 5th function Ti with a measure of paranoia reminds me of how this manager used to express in private, disdain for software developers who “littered” certain servers with a variety of processes & scheduled jobs that ended up becoming critical to certain business processes (organically embedded in the architecture) and how we needed to have a separate server (read: separate bucket, Si-style) or a separate team-managed process to handle all of these. I’m implying here that many of these software devs were Ti users, which I don’t know for sure but it’s plausible. The idea of parking your code wherever it will run is something I’ve done before and I feel it’s a common shortcut for folks who don’t want to do the “work” of finding and defining the properly compartmentalized place for it.

    He didn’t have such a wordy description of this though, the phrase was something to the expression of “excrement bucket.”

  • Eric
    • Eric
    • March 2, 2022 at 6:34 pm

    Aside, thank you so much for these podcasts! The insight I’ve received is nothing short of amazing. I have John’s book on my to-buy list soon but these archetypal descriptions are just so relatable & I’m grateful you have produced this.

    I suspect going forward, John’s 8-function model and the archetypes are going to be my main point of “intellectual focus” after I’ve seen Dr. Nardi’s Jung-on-Yoga program through.

  • Eric
    • Eric
    • March 2, 2022 at 5:33 pm

    Re: 5th function being frustrating…

    (INTP here)

    Passive-aggressive, avoidance, paranoid, seductive

    I have seen this kind of interaction within myself when dealing with ExTJ managers. Also our IT “change control” process (entirely born from ESTJ managers), there is a tendency among me and other IxTPs … e.g. my ISTP former manager (now more or less equal colleague)… both of us have a tendency to sometimes “forget” the change control process and make system changes on our own… It’s a passive-aggressive & avoidant dynamic I see myself take part in frequently. I’ve become better at this as I’ve aged (cough been burned/reprimanded). But I probably do it in other contexts where I haven’t been burned (yet).

  • Jared Vaughan
    • Jared Vaughan
    • September 9, 2021 at 9:28 pm

    Best description I’ve heard of Beebe’s model yet. In Beebe’s model the 6th function is generally called the critic. Because in the case of an ENTP, they are critical of other people’s thinking. Or in my case as an INTP I am critical of what I want for the future. Also the trickster also refers to the fact we often trick ourselves into thinking we are good at it when we are not. And according to Socionics, Darionardi and else where, it is our weakest function. Even weaker than the 8th function. Thanks again.

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