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In this episode, Joel and Antonia talk about the ways we over-identify with our personalities and strategies for the next phase of personal growth.
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In this podcast you’ll find:
- “Personality is who you are not” – Joel and Antonia unpack the meaning behind this statement, used by Dr. Beatrice Chestnut and Uranio Paes in their Enneagram work.
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How Joel and Antonia embodied this message during a recent enneagram retreat.
- Joel shares his experience with “personality is who you are not” through the lens of his Enneagram type (6).
- Antonia explains how this shows up differently for her as a type 3.
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Antonia explains the importance and role of the “identity” phase as an entry point to type – and the trap of staying in this place for too long.
- How staying in “identity” affects our long term relationship with typology systems.
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How Myers-Briggs® appears different from the Enneagram in relation to this topic.
- Viewing your Myers-Briggs® growth path through your cognitive functions as a way to avoid one-sidedness.
- Check out our article on The Car Model to understand your growth path through your type’s functions.
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What’s the role of personality if it isn’t who we truly are? Joel shares his experience as a type 6 and how this has served him throughout life.
- Joel’s excitement at discovering his true essence as a type 6.
- Antonia talks about her inner work as a type 3 – and why the world in general rewards type 3s when they don’t do this work.
- What awaits you on the other side of overidentification and doing the work? Joel talks about how your motivations can change when you get to this place.
- Joel and Antonia share more thoughts and experiences on undertaking personal growth work.
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Examining the layers of personal growth work through the HAT model.
- Check out this episode where we unpack the HAT model to learn more.
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Viewing personal growth as a timeline – and why it doesn’t matter if you’re in the identity phase right now.
- A message for content creators on this topic.
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Another option is to just assume they are all good regardless of title, listen, download them and rename the file whatever you want. Be thankful they make any.
Thank you for putting out such nuanced content about personality type and it’s use for personal growth.
I got so envious of you being at this retreat… and of course I’m an enneagram 4. Definitely not on the same timeline but I can see the value of continuing down this road. Having you guys blazing a trail and being so transparant about it is really inspiring and motivating to me.
Loved this episode! As an Enneagram 5, coming to terms with the fact that I have so much more energy than I think I do is hard and also freeing.
A reason (that is within your control) that these deeper episodes don’t do well is because your titles for them are actually really bad ?
I’m sorry to be so direct but there’s no other way to put it. I know Joel was really passionate about that statement “personality is who you’re not” but it is neither an accurate title for what was actually discussed; nor a particularly enticing title to click. It IS provocative but it provokes a person to NOT click to listen.I, personally, am on track with you. I have used MBTI to transcend the stereotypes of my type. It has resulted in incredible wealth for me and indescribable progress in my personal relationships (i have other tools in my toolkit btw but MBTI is a significant one).
The Enneagram, on the other hand, has been more challenging because i always felt it told me everything wrong with me but very little about what i can do to be a better me.
This episode was therefore EXTREMELY valuable content to me. It gave me a lot of deeper insight about how to approach the enneagram.
But I almost didn’t open it.
In fact, i deleted it at first but iTunes automatically downloaded it again so i very reluctantly pressed play. I was so pleasantly surprised by how good the episode was.
Yet i almost missed it because of the shitty title.
You need to do like those people making popcorn listicles as Joel called them (hilarious ?).
Teach us deep stuff but try to make the titles more clickable. It’ll help you reach more of us that are ready for the deeper stuff.
At the end of the day, we’re still human beings. No matter how deep, spiritual, or evolved we are.
Entice us human beings with your titles. And we will listen and eat the vegetables you’re serving.