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In this episode, Joel talks with Antonia and Melissa Harris (Personality Hacker’s Profiling Coach) about the personal challenges they both face as NT women (ENTP and INTJ).

In this podcast you’ll find:

  • Guest host Melissa Harris, Executive Coach for Personality Hacker’s Profiler Training and INTJ, joins the conversation.
  • What are the top social challenges xNTP and xNTJ women face?
  • How Sensor Thinker women can resonate with some of these concerns.
  • How does being an Intuitive layer more complexity?
  • Why NT Women can’t as easily do emotional labor for other people.
  • What are the social strategies Antonia & Melissa, as NT women, have developed?
  • How do they deal with being underestimated? And also being intimidating?
  • The advantages of communicating good intent.
  • Our secret powers as NT women.
  • Why your hard-earned adaptability serves you well.
  • What is the universal statement NT women say?
  • The leverage point of being between the masculine and feminine polarity.
  • Our healing powers as NT women.
  • How is it being a mother as an NT woman?
    • What comes easily.
    • Navigating the realm of emotions.
    • The things that drain us.
    • The hidden shame many NT mothers experience.
    • Deciding which parenting rules apply.
    • Giving yourself permission to be offbeat.
  • The helpful advice every NT woman needs to hear.

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  • Janine
    • Janine
    • August 17, 2022 at 3:55 pm

    These podcasts have given me sooooo much healing as an INTJ. 30 days ago I was served divorce papers from an ISTP. We have been married for 20 years, yah…..just let that sink in……… I have been accommodating, managing my thoughts, am so, so very careful with my words, as I can provoke a hundred things, put my systems in place with morality, clear planning, organization, support and all that I provide as an INTJ. He is, of course, top at work always, top in mountain biking, fixes anything, provides a fabulous income and home, but, I have gotten sick recently, can’t work. 2 major shifts in me…. My energy went into healing, he perceives withdrawal. I blew up on a bike ride in Aspen. Total ISTP, he thought he know where he was going, and I let him lead, an hour later he admits he is wrong. Yelling, I let him have it, like an INTJ would with 20 years of accommodating… hours earlier, I had mapped out the coordinates( seriously, of course I did) complying with gender roles, I trusted him…… that day I let it fly with every thought I had been hiding, and we are now over. The autopsy of the very analytical marriage, thanks to you both, has helped put the concepts together. We just could have never have had a healthy relationship unless he did the work, but of course he won’t. Because he is right…..

  • Nereyda Cornejo
    • Nereyda Cornejo
    • March 16, 2022 at 5:15 pm

    INTJ here, loved the freedom of expression in this podcast. It was REAL not necessarily PRETTY which is the façade most of us have to present as females in order to navigate our lives easier (because others expectations don’t match us and it can cause us to feel rejected AND isolated from ‘normal’ society.

  • leslie
    • leslie
    • May 20, 2021 at 7:47 pm

    INTP here and I truly appreciate both episodes. I raised one kid and the whole time I felt selfish… I would see how much time/energy all the other moms were putting into their kids (playdates, school parties, etc.) and I wasn’t that way and felt less than. I love my daughter but my time with her looked much different. I was the artsy, laid back mom that put more emphasis in reading and creativity. But my daughter (a feeler) always wished i was more like the other moms. UGH. Not to mention, I had such a hard time “getting” her. She was so emotional and sentimental about everything.. it drove me nuts! I kept thinking.. Where are you getting this? I’m not raising you this way! Oh boy, if only I knew then what I know now…

    I absolutely identify with the troubles associated with “clicking” with men over women. I have been accused numerous times throughout my life of “flirting” with husbands… when the truth was that i just found conversations with the men more interesting. Women are boring and take so much work! lol #kidding #kinda What would that look like to say… “I’m sorry, your husband is just more interesting than you.” :)

  • Jane
    • Jane
    • March 3, 2021 at 2:20 pm

    This was a great listen. I don’t know if I’m an NT or not but the suggestions were helpful regardless. It may not be a common audience for your podcast, but I would love to see something similar for “ST” women. It would be helpful for any of those women who might be listening as well as those who have ST women in their lives. I suspect they feel similarly oddball and not always accepted in Fe-driven female groups.

  • Shawn Caruthers
    • Shawn Caruthers
    • November 23, 2020 at 4:12 pm

    Hi Melissa and Antonia! This was an excellent podcast. I have experience with having conversations with you Melissa and have definitely noticed that you are more responsive rather than initiating when it comes to conversations with women. You are very careful with me even though I don’t prefer you to be ( smiles ). I love listening and problem solving too but I I thank you so much for being a wonderful listener and a friend who gives useful feedback. Also thanks Antonia and Joel for the education you’ve provided to us all.
    - ISFP Shawn Caruthers ( formerly Thompson)

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