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In this episode, Joel and Antonia discuss one of the most commonly asked questions, “Is personality type related to ADHD?” by highlighting research, statistics, and numbers showing correlations between psychological types and Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD).
| Study Breakdown |
Study Breakdown |
| ADHD | ADD |
| ENFP (17.44 %) | ENFP (23.53 %) |
| ESFP (13.95 %) | ESFJ (17.65 %) |
| ESFJ (12.79 %) | ESFP (14.71 %) |
| ISFP (9.30 %) | INFP (11.76 %) |
| INFP (6.98 %) | ISFP (11.76 %) |
| ENFJ (6.98 %) | ENFJ (8.82 %) |
| ISTP (5.81 %) | INFJ (5.88 %) |
| ISFJ (4.65 %) | ISFJ (2.94 %) |
| ESTJ (4.65 %) | INTP (2.94 %) |
| ESTP (4.65 %) | ENTJ (0.0 %) |
| INFJ (3.49 %) | INTJ (0.0 %) |
| ISTJ (3.49 %) | ESTJ (0.0 %) |
| INTP (2.33 %) | ISTJ (0.0 %) |
| ENTJ (1.16 %) | ISTP (0.0 %) |
| INTJ (1.16 %) | ESTP (0.0 %) |
| ENTP (1.16 %) | ENTP (0.0 %) |
Studies referred to in comments (added to over time):
The Relationship of Personality Style and Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder in Children
In this podcast you’ll find:
- Is there a correlation between ADHD or ADD and personality types?
- Are there enough studies for this topic?
- What the MILO database system has to offer.
- The study on the relationship between ADHD, ADD and personality type.
- What does the DSM-5 say about ADHD and ADD?
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Which types are most likely to have ADHD?
- Why are Joel and Antonia surprised by which type is highest on the list?
- The big spread Joel and Antonia’s types have from each other.
- Why did all the Introverted Feeling (xxFP) types and 2 Extroverted Feeling (xxFEJ) types land high on the list?
- Why are the NT (xNTx) types grouped together?
- What cognitive functions and David Kiersey’s type temperaments have to do with the results.
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Which types are most likely to have ADD?
- The drastic split between Feelers and Thinkers.
- Is there a divide with Sensors and Intuitives?
- Why a large group of types report 0% ADD.
- Which types correlate with the ADHD list?
- Does Extraverted Exploration (Ne – Exploration) have a role in ADHD or ADD?
- The surprise cognitive function that is most correlated with both ADHD and ADD.
- What is the other cognitive function landing high on the list?
- How the cognitive function positions in the car model matter here.
- Why IxTPs are outliers in the study.
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The effects of learning environments:
- Do some people have ADHD or ADD or just a different learning style?
- Real struggles people experience with their learning environments.
- Article by Daniel Foster on educational environments and type needs.
- What are the challenges in discovering type preferences in children?
- How can we tell if behavior is from type needs not being met vs ADHD and ADD?
- Why we need to use these findings to support children better.
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The imperative changes we need to make for types high on the list:
- Giving FPs (xxFPs) what they absolutely need.
- Allowing SPs (xSxPs) to be as they are.
- Letting Extraverted Feeling (Fe – Harmony) Dominants thrive in their way.
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You are so ridiculously wrong and perpetuating an insanely dangerous idea.
The sample size to measure a sub minority population within a minority population where both populations consist of 1% or less than 1% of all individuals within their perspective populations and where the margin of error is less than 1% would require a sample size of about 9600 students. The population size of the study is < 1000. This is why you don't see measurements for ADD and rarer personality types.
The study isn't something that should be referenced/used to make decisions as the sample size is too small. Also the information is outdated. ADD and ADHD aren't considered different disorders anymore. SME's in the field agree the terms were incorrectly defined by so called "experts". Which is highlighted in the paper itself by using a small sample incapable of measuring minority sub populations within minority populations.
TLDR: The data used to make the analysis is too small. It would be considered junk data in I/O field. The terminology is also outdated. ADD and ADHD were always the same disorder but were incorrectly by people that didn't understand the disorder.
I see one problem with the study; I think at the time, it was not possible to be diagnosed with both autism and adhd. But now it’s well known that it’s very common to have both. If this study was done again, I think the results could be very different.
Love your work
March, thank you. So apparently even the DSM-IV hadn’t been finished yet (May 1994), let alone the DSM-5.
I understand you’re not experts on ADHD, and I understand the hesitation to speak on topics you’re not experts in when there HAS been research — I’m an INFP, so Si is my 10yo, I get it. I hate to encourage that hesitation!
However. Despite the caveats and disclaimers about speculating and not being experts, this… could’ve been better.
Maybe there isn’t much in recent years on ADHD and personality types, but in the last 28 years the research on ADHD itself has come a LOOOONG way. You read the DSM-5 criteria, but I don’t know if it really sunk in? Even the hyperactive subtype of ADHD is about SO MUCH MORE than hyperactivity. Please don’t think the only change over the years has been to the nomenclature. I mean, I’m glad you mentioned it’s not called ADD anymore, but there’s so much more… It’s just scratching the surface to say most experts now say the issue is with attentional CONTROL more than attention itself. In fact, I believe there’s a lot of symptom overlap with Developmental or Complex PTSD, and many of us may have both. On top of THAT, IIRC, people with untreated ADHD even have a shorter life expectancy. It’s NOT just about school.
But then you talked about those 1994 students as though they were diagnosed with the DSM-5 criteria, which they weren’t. (While simultaneously focusing on things like their need to move, so maybe the two cancel each other out?)
You both had experience through family members, but again, things have changed over the years. Medication is not seen as a cure for ADHD, or even as full treatment. I often feel jealous of the ADHDers who were diagnosed as kids and so didn’t self-diagnose as morally deficient, lazy, lacking in willpower and self-control. But then I’m reminded they often were just handed pills without much or any explanation or education on ADHD.
Today there are so many good podcasts and articles, I think self-reported diagnoses NOW might actually be more reliable than official diagnoses 30 years ago! ? I bet the gender disparity would be a lot smaller, regardless of sample size…
Anyway. I had no problems in school, other than actually completing my homework. Always tested very well academically. Got a 5 on the AP English test, a D in the class. I was diagnosed as an adult woman, around the time this podcast originally aired, I think, at 38. “Pills don’t teach skills,” but man are they helpful.
This video bothered me to no end, over half of the conclusions in this video are wrong. To get and accurate picture you have to compare to percentages with the general population. From the numbers I found for that puts an ENTP person with 3.2% of the general population is actually almost twice as likely to have adhd, while an isfp at 8.8% would actually be less likely to have adhd. The only accurate conclusion is that someone with adhd is not likely to be ENTP, but every comment in this video that makes conclusions the other way such as an ENTP person is less likely to have adhd or that there is a correlation with SF being more likely and NT being less likely is just straight up wrong. Statistics are tricky though, and I have no idea how accurate any of these numbers are, especially the ADD numbers had such a low population in not sure if it’s worth looking at. So I can’t make any of my own correlations but I can say for certain that the ones in this video are completely wrong.