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In this episode Joel and Antonia talk about why we need Introverted Thinking in our modern world of misinformation and confusing logic.

In this podcast you’ll find:

  • When you look at MBTI, we see 16 patterns of people as they show up down thru history.
  • Macrocosms – social manifestations
  • Certain characteristics are more or less favored by society.
  • In the US, there has been emphasis placed on Judger qualities – Si, Ni, Te, Fe
  • Lots of time and effort poured into infrastructure. Emphasis on conformity. Collective ideal.
  • We can see a shift to more of a perceiving style.
  • Preferences of whole societies can shift over time. We as individuals can’t change types, but societies can.
  • Henry Ford is famous for saying, “You can have any color you want, as long as it’s black.”
  • Burger King is famous for saying, “Have it your way.”
  • We went from a one-size-fits-all society to one that enjoys unlimited choices.
  • The message in the middle part of 20th century was one of conformity – Graves level 4
  • In the 80s a lot of people started graduating to Graves Level 5. Things started becoming more individualistic.
  • When done poorly, Introverted Thinking (Ti) is a dull blade, and it hurts. When done well it is a sharp sword.
  • As a society, we aren’t using Ti well, but we want to be.
  • Modern media is reinforcing this idea that Ti is becoming more popular.
  • John Oliver
  • John Stewart
  • Adam Ruins Everything
  • Trump likely uses Ti as a copilot. He’s not using it well.
  • People want to rest into truth, no matter how unpopular
  • What the internet did for people was give them the ability to see how much contradictory info is out there.
  • People lose faith in the experts. We have to be the final determiners of good/bad info.
  • Facebook has announced it is going to start censoring misleading news sources, which is going to remove people’s ability to vet their news sources.
  • Common Core teaches kids how to think. How to vet info.
  • Most people are terrible with logic. It’s not because people don’t have the ability to be analytical, it’s that they aren’t taught formal logic.
  • Consumer technology has outpaced us socially. We are now required to use formal logic.
  • Are we able to develop this process fast enough to meet the challenges demanded of us?
  • Youtube comments
  • If you have even a hair’s breath of emotion fueling your evaluation or assessment, you are not using Ti. Ti is the best when completely emotionally neutral.
  • Bias lives in the emotional expression of want. You want to believe something.
  • If you are getting emotionally triggered and you can’t hold it at bay, you aren’t using Ti.
  • That requires a level of rigor that even people who have it as a strength take time to perfect
  • If you get emotionally triggered, you cannot look at a piece of data with clarity. Clarity requires an emotionally neutral stance.
  • This is tough. Society as a whole is crappy at this. Everything is triggering.
  • For society to get better at this everybody has to stop being so triggered. They have to stop being so emotional.
  • Julian Assange probably a Ti user.
  • Most people aren’t that concerned with facts. They are concerned with what they want.
  • Teaching children how to think is vital.
  • Don’t assume you are good at logic when you aren’t.
  • People believe everything they think. So it must be true. It must be rational. Why doesn’t everyone else see it?
  • Righteous indignation – If you say something that bothers me, you have to be set right.
  • Unskilled Ti hurts people.
  • Build skill with it.
  • Stop using it as a weapon. It is better not to use it at all than to use it poorly.
  • Don’t dismiss information when it comes your way just because it runs contrary to what you want to believe.
  • If Ti is your strength, make sure you are using it well. Make sure people can rest into your data.
  • The ideal world is where all TPs are rooting out their biases, and the world welcomes their data.
  • Bernie Sanders also uses Ti.
  • Non-triggered truth-telling.
  • There is no such things as empirical truth. But that doesn’t mean that there aren’t truths that are closer to empirical truths than others. Not a toggle switch, more of a sliding scale.
  • Show up with clean data.
  • The most damaging emotion right now is righteous indignation.
  • Introverted Feeling (Fi) needs to be tempered with Ti or we will lose our way.
  • Fi idealism can become its weakness if it tries to foist that off on others.
  • Extreme social shame if someone isn’t on the same level.
  • Muscle people into the right behavior.
  • Ti won’t do that. It’s not sustainable. Ti is seeking the sustainable truth. Muscling someone with social censure is not a viable tool. That’s more like Fe gone wrong.
  • Ti is showing us a more accurate perception of where we are in the stream of time.
  • Dial back that indignation. Get more precise collectively
  • Car Model

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  • V
    • V
    • June 9, 2017 at 12:53 am

    I listened to this podcast last night, but it came back to mind today as I was reading Jonathan Haidt’s book The Righteous Mind. Chapter 4 of his book argues that the purpose of moral reasoning is to preserve our social reputation. While people sometimes think of moral reasoning as a means of getting to the truth of a matter, things are actually a lot messier when bugs such as confirmation bias cloud us from accurately viewing different perspectives of the same issue. Thus, that discussion reminded me of the concept of some people not knowing how to Ti well.

    On a side note, as an INFP, I can attest to many INFP resources developing communities within their respective comment sections. I think it’s cute, and found Antonia’s observation of how that happened on your INFP video interesting c:

  • Steve
    • Steve
    • May 11, 2017 at 11:53 pm

    Sam Harris is the ultimate ideal of an INTP in my opinion. He communicates the well reasoned truth as he sees it and brings no emotion or ulterior motives to the table. Still he attacked on all sides by social justice warriors and other ideologues.

    I would love to see a discussion with him regarding MBTI and the role of personality type in many of the conflicts we see in this arena. Maybe you can be guests on the Waking Up podcast!

  • Antonia Dodge
    • Antonia Dodge
    • April 5, 2017 at 3:36 pm

    Formal logic, the principles of radical honesty and higher math are all great Ti disciplines.


  • fall
    • fall
    • March 23, 2017 at 8:08 pm

    Hi to all, I’ve been listening to you for a while now and I found your podcast the most helpful tool for Ti-ing.
    ( :) )
    I’m an INFJ, (often typed as INTJ due to the fact that my F – T metrics are too close and might overlap). Besides of feeling confortable using the Ti 3-year-old function and living in a Ti time, I would like to use it in a healthier way, so in the podcast Antonia mentioned that there are disciplines that help to be good at it / improve the Ti in a healthy way, could you guys please give some examples?

  • Leeann
    • Leeann
    • March 4, 2017 at 6:49 pm

    FYI I live on the East Coast now. To clarify, I did not see this type of behavior where I’m from in a Illinois.

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