Podcast – Episode 0409 – How We Get Brainwashed To Become Sloppy Thinkers

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In this episode, Joel and Antonia talk about how we can use better conversation tools to improve our own thinking and understanding of others.


In this podcast you’ll find:

  • Why do oversimplified ways of thinking exist in the world today?
  • What are some the emergents of sloppy thinking and how do they show up?
  • Why holding space for paradox within thought and opinion is vital.
  • The sense of personal responsibility Antonia feels as an Accuracy (Ti) user.
  • Why simplicity is a double-edged sword in a complex world.
  • Exploring the role of brainwashing and self re-programming.
  • What happens when we don’t complete topical conversations and iterations at the societal level?
  • The cost of being connected globally, but focused locally.
  • Why it’s important to carefully choose the topics and causes you’re willing to argue for.
    • Honoring your cause with sincerity, love and intellectual honesty.
  • Drawing parallels between Accuracy (Ti) and Authenticity (Fi) to illustrate thought processing.
    • What happens when you process a thought to its conclusion?
  • Why aren’t the principles of rhetoric and philosophy widely known and applied in most arguments?
    • How modern-day media fails to use these principles.
    • The cognitive dissonance in journalism today.
  • “If you aren’t thinking your thoughts, you’re thinking someone else’s” – why it’s important to fight off attempts to soften our minds.
  • Antonia introduces the rhetorical principle of steel-manning – learn more about the principles of rhetoric at this website.
  • Understanding the antithesis of steel-manning: straw-manning.
  • The hollow-man and iron-man – how these distort arguments, but lack persuasion.
  • Why would someone revert to using one of these undermining tactics in the first place? 
  • Why it’s important to apply the principle of charity in debates or arguments.
  • The power of steel-manning – how you benefit from strengthening your opponent’s position.
  • Diffusing the ego game – how to apply a positive reframe to an argument or debate.
    • What if your opponent doesn’t reciprocate? 
  • The three rapport rules to apply when composing a critical commentary.
  • Antonia’s parting advice for becoming a more critical thinker.

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  • Thomas J Sodwith

    Loved your analogies.

    Bottom line: Open-mindedness must not only exist for the people you are talking to essentially you, (the speaker), must be willing to change your point of view when presented with a perspective that you might not have originally thought of or thought about the total ramifications that your actions would quite literally impose your actions on a society. Is society ready for the degree of change which you are suggesting.

  • Job

    Hi guys,

    I never consciously thought about the way I use arguments. Reflecting on it now, I think I started steelmanning my conversation partners arguments about 5 years ago. Steelmanning (almost) unacceptable standpoints just to use it as a counterpoint to test other arguments is a lot of fun.
    However, I am having a lot of trouble figuring out my own opinion because I see a degree of validity in all positions. This makes me (in my eyes) a terrible debater, because I never feel passionately like I’m totally against or pro- and therefore the debate setting never appealed to me.
    This is also a reason why I questioned if I really was an ENTP or not because so many resources refer to them as “Debaters”. By now I’m pretty sure I am an ENTP even though in my opinion I’m more of a “Nuancer” then a “Debater”. I like to be a bystander of a debate helping both sides creating better and more clear arguments and narratives.

    Is struggling to have an “own/authentic opinion” something you come across more often in ENTP’s?
    Does anyone else recognize this?

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