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In this episode, Joel and Antonia talk about the Myers-Briggs cognitive functions and their relationship to time.
In this podcast you’ll find:
- A float tank is excellent for Introverted Intuition
- Introversion and extraversion have an interesting relationship with time and space.
- All the extraverted functions live in the outside world.
- So they are intrinsically tied to the laws of interfacing, which are laws we need to agree on to interface with other people.
- One of those laws is the law of time.
- We, as humans, experience time linearly.
- We are linear but time and space are not.
- All the extraverted functions are bound to time and space as a continuum.
- The introverted functions are untethered from the laws of interfacing because they are inside of us, so they aren’t tethered to linear time.
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Extraverted Functions:
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2 Extraverted Perceiving functions:
- Extraverted Intuition
- Extraverted Sensing
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2 Extraverted Perceiving functions:
- These are the parts of us that want to have freedom and learn, so they are the most rebellious to time.
- These functions tend to resent time because it means less time for experiences.
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2 Extraverted Judging Functions
- Extraverted Feeling
- Extraverted Thinking
- These functions are more likely to hand themselves over to time because they recognize the need for schedules.
- You recognize you can’t have full freedom and get goals accomplished.
- Extraverted Intuition tries to cheat time by packing as many experiences in as possible
- Extraverted Sensing cheats time by being present and having the most intense experiences it can.
- Extraverted Perceiving functions are both eager for experiences.
- All extraverted functions acknowledge that the rules of time and space exist, but they react differently to them.
- Extraverted perceiving functions rebel against time
- Extraverted judging functions work within the laws of time.
- All introverted functions don’t need to interact with the outer world at all.
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Introverted Functions:
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2 Introverted Perceiving functions
- Introverted Intuition
- Introverted Sensing
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2 Introverted Judging functions
- Introverted Thinking
- Introverted Feeling
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2 Introverted Perceiving functions
- Introverted functions get to decide whether or not to interface with time.
- Introverted Sensing is fascinated with the past
- Introverted Intuition is more interested in the future.
- But both can interact with the past or future.
- They capture experiences and bring them inside to interact with at their leisure.
- Post-processing.
- Introverted Perceiving processes don’t need to obey the laws of time, but they master it within themselves
- This is why Introverted perceivers will sometimes struggle with time management because the outer world isn’t their usual way of interacting with time.
- INFJs and ISFJs may struggle with organization because they must wait for a catalyst or need to get them into action.
- So, these types may struggle to interface with time similarly to Extraverted Perceivers.
- Introverted Judging functions are the least tied to time because they create systems in their heads.
- Time Binding is a thought or concept written down thousands of years ago which holds up thousands of years later.
- Data isn’t bound by time.
- Extraverted Judging functions are the most likely to hand themselves over to the rules of time.
- Introverted Judging functions are the least likely to hand themselves over to time.
- Introverted Perceiving functions could ignore time, but they have chosen not to because it is pleasurable for them to be gods over time.
- Introverted functions are often called selfish because they are self-oriented.
- All the extraverted functions are imperious. They believe they should be able to get their way.
- This info may help us give grace to each other.
- Introverts aren’t selfish; they just self-reference.
- Extraverts aren’t overstepping they are just experiencing in the outer world.
- Sit down and write down your four-function stack, as we do in the car model.
- The ENTP driver process is Extraverted Intuition which rebels against time as much as it can.
- ENTPs copilot is Introverted Thinking which doesn’t care that much for time.
- So, an ENTP needs to find another part of themselves to interact with time in a better way.
- ENTPs tertiary is Extraverted Feeling which has a responsive relationship to time.
- So, an ENTP needs to set up catalysts in life to put them into motion and get things done to meet external needs.
- It may be okay for you to be beholden to people if it helps you get things done.
- ENTPs inferior is Introverted Sensing which isn’t going to interface with time reliably, but it can review concepts of time.
- Extraverted Intuition wants to rebel against time, but Introverted Sensing sees itself as the master of time and has a friendlier relationship to it.
- So, if an ENTP wants to develop a friendly relationship with time, they can use their inferior function to develop a friendlier relationship with time.
- But the highest leverage function for the ENTP to interface well with time is their tertiary, Extraverted Feeling.
- It won’t be a strength. It will be a bit idealistic and sloppy, at first.
- ENTPs are very good at performing at the eleventh hour which helps them overcome their weaknesses with time
- ENTPs have a more responsive relationship with time than ENFPs who must use their tertiary Extraverted Thinking.
- Extraverted Thinking is going to be more proactive with time and less responsive.
- ENFPs may tether to time better than ENTPs because of their tertiary.
- Our relationship to time and space is only one node of how we interact with time and space.
- So, are IPs screwed? No
- When Introverted Feeling or Thinking realize something is truly important to them, they bring all the conviction and integrity with them and blast it to the outside world.
- IPs can be unstoppable.
- Because IPs can’t rely upon time and space as the thing that gets them going, they need to use their superpower of conviction and integrity to determine what is important.
- You aren’t screwed if you don’t have a natural tethering to time.
- The stereotype is that the EJs have the most natural ability to interact with time and space.
- But EJs lack the relationship with their inner calibration, so the things they get done aren’t serving them as well as if they were able to interface more fully with inner conviction and integrity.
- Don’t see this as fatalistic.
- There are many components to getting things done.
- One of the advantages to extraverted perceiving functions is that they still recognize the laws of time and space.
- So they get a lot done.
- They are less worried about the economy of their actions.
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And here’s another INFP who gets disoriented by interruptions.
My experience of Fi is that it creates a parallel world, which is just as real to me as the concrete world is to a Te-Dom.
Like Leanne says, these images are constructed within that inner space, just like the creations we see (buildings, people, events, etc.) and the last thing you want is an interruption, which can bring your construction tumbling down like a sandcastle.
This was a really good one, guys. Thank you. I love the deep dives like this. I listened twice. Once while at work and let it be a chew toy for my brain to keep it occupied while I had to do some menial task work and then later when I could focus on it more to make sure I didn’t miss anything.
I also can’t resist trying to help in clarifying a few things from comments above – FWIW.
Dario Nardi in the book “Neuroscience of Personality” said that, using EEG technology, he noticed that INFPs engage every area of the Neocortex (the thinking part of the brain) when they listen. I don’t think any other type has that focus – especially conversationally.
Scott James, who has been closely associated with PH and (I think) was one of the first people (if not the first person) to complete PH Profiler Training (shameless plug) has a video on YouTube called “John Lennon’s Myers-Briggs Type – INFP or ENFP?” that talks about this (with video examples) of the way INFPs listen.
I won’t link either here, but you can look them up if you’re interested. It might help some of the INFPs commenting above to process and frame some of their difficulties with their frustration surrounding distraction and understanding why they approach conversation and focus differently.
As an ENP, my distract-ability and seeming inability not to mess with the person I’m talking to, riff on something they said and reference a movie quote, song lyric, quote, point out some weird interaction with a couple or group at another table at the restaurant, etc., has been a source of profound irritation to those in conversation with me and led me to do some research in this area.
As to the idea of selfish IPs. Selfish and self-referencing are different animals. IP emotional sympathy by using their own experience to replicate an emotion is self-referencing, but by no means does it automatically make it selfish. Some people may think it is selfish because it usually results in the IP sharing a story from their own life trying to explain that they are relating, but I think a growth opportunity for the IP is in a partial quote from something I saw recently entitled “Notes to Self”. Note 1 of 9 is:
Remember that you can’t control how other people receive your energy. Anything you do gets filtered through the lens of whatever they are going through at the moment, which has nothing to do with you. Just keep doing your thing with as much love and integrity as possible.
Another INFP, resonating with this episode, and trying to figure out how to live with time in a way that feels like less of a struggle. Last week, as we were arriving late (again) to my son’s sports class, and he was complaining to me about how we were always late, I promised him that I would be better, that I would “follow all the Time Rules and not break them”. Because that’s what happens: I plan a timeline, thinking I can contain myself and my children within my plans, and then in the moment, I break all the rules I made, thinking time will somehow stretch, or compact, or everyone and everything will cooperate with my last minute rushing. But shoelaces break, and feelings flare up, and projects happen (and want to keep happening), and dogs want to keep walking longer, and pretty soon all the Time Rules have flown out the window and we’re late. Again.
So, here i am, trying to be committed to following the rules of time this week. Or really, still figuring out what some of those rules even are.
When you mentioned IPs, I was just nodding and grinning, because it was so true for me. And I don’t know if I’ll ever figure out how to wrangle my 3yr old Te into getting my real world 6 year old and 10 year old out the door or to bed “on time”, but maybe my son’s disappointment will give me the conviction I need.
Thanks for another interesting conversation, and…I can’t resist apologizing for writing such a lengthy post (and I have to mention that I wrote this instead of getting my kids to bed earlier, as I had planned this morning…so much for following my Time Rules)!!!
And here’s another INFP who gets disoriented by interruptions.
My experience of Fi is that it creates a parallel world, which is just as real to me as the concrete world is to a Te-Dom.
Like Leanne says, these images are constructed within that inner space, just like the creations we see (buildings, people, events, etc.) and the last thing you want is an interruption, which can bring your construction tumbling down like a sandcastle.
Ah yes. As a Ni user I relate heavily to both concepts- the concept of being the god of time and also the concept of being completely disconnected from time.
When I am looking for insight, I get completely disconnected from reality and am totally unable to feel the flow of time happening around me.
I imagine that when you come out of a float tank (or if you’ve done yoga and gotten into a deep meditative state or when you wake up from a very “real feeling” dream, etc.) you experience a moment or two of total disorientation to time and space. It’s that feeling, but on the every day level.
I think knowing that I have that tendency to “drift” easily is why I feel the importance even more so of setting up schedules for myself/anchoring myself to reality in some way.
I do not however feel any rebelliousness towards time, that’s a good insight and a big difference between myself and NPs I know.
I just tend to in every day life easily lose track of time. But that simply ignites in me a desire to keep track of it even more because ultimately my external judging function wants me to accomplish things in the outside world. It’s not enough for me to receive the insight. I need to do something with it.