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In this episode, Joel and Antonia discuss one of the most commonly asked questions, “Is personality type related to ADHD?” by highlighting research, statistics, and numbers showing correlations between psychological types and Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD).
| Study Breakdown |
Study Breakdown |
| ADHD | ADD |
| ENFP (17.44 %) | ENFP (23.53 %) |
| ESFP (13.95 %) | ESFJ (17.65 %) |
| ESFJ (12.79 %) | ESFP (14.71 %) |
| ISFP (9.30 %) | INFP (11.76 %) |
| INFP (6.98 %) | ISFP (11.76 %) |
| ENFJ (6.98 %) | ENFJ (8.82 %) |
| ISTP (5.81 %) | INFJ (5.88 %) |
| ISFJ (4.65 %) | ISFJ (2.94 %) |
| ESTJ (4.65 %) | INTP (2.94 %) |
| ESTP (4.65 %) | ENTJ (0.0 %) |
| INFJ (3.49 %) | INTJ (0.0 %) |
| ISTJ (3.49 %) | ESTJ (0.0 %) |
| INTP (2.33 %) | ISTJ (0.0 %) |
| ENTJ (1.16 %) | ISTP (0.0 %) |
| INTJ (1.16 %) | ESTP (0.0 %) |
| ENTP (1.16 %) | ENTP (0.0 %) |
Studies referred to in comments (added to over time):
The Relationship of Personality Style and Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder in Children
In this podcast you’ll find:
- Is there a correlation between ADHD or ADD and personality types?
- Are there enough studies for this topic?
- What the MILO database system has to offer.
- The study on the relationship between ADHD, ADD and personality type.
- What does the DSM-5 say about ADHD and ADD?
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Which types are most likely to have ADHD?
- Why are Joel and Antonia surprised by which type is highest on the list?
- The big spread Joel and Antonia’s types have from each other.
- Why did all the Introverted Feeling (xxFP) types and 2 Extroverted Feeling (xxFEJ) types land high on the list?
- Why are the NT (xNTx) types grouped together?
- What cognitive functions and David Kiersey’s type temperaments have to do with the results.
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Which types are most likely to have ADD?
- The drastic split between Feelers and Thinkers.
- Is there a divide with Sensors and Intuitives?
- Why a large group of types report 0% ADD.
- Which types correlate with the ADHD list?
- Does Extraverted Exploration (Ne – Exploration) have a role in ADHD or ADD?
- The surprise cognitive function that is most correlated with both ADHD and ADD.
- What is the other cognitive function landing high on the list?
- How the cognitive function positions in the car model matter here.
- Why IxTPs are outliers in the study.
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The effects of learning environments:
- Do some people have ADHD or ADD or just a different learning style?
- Real struggles people experience with their learning environments.
- Article by Daniel Foster on educational environments and type needs.
- What are the challenges in discovering type preferences in children?
- How can we tell if behavior is from type needs not being met vs ADHD and ADD?
- Why we need to use these findings to support children better.
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The imperative changes we need to make for types high on the list:
- Giving FPs (xxFPs) what they absolutely need.
- Allowing SPs (xSxPs) to be as they are.
- Letting Extraverted Feeling (Fe – Harmony) Dominants thrive in their way.
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ADHD does not exist:
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The Myth of the A.D.D. Child, by Thomas Armstrong, Ph.D.:
Excerpt (from page 10): "Confronted with children whom psychologists, psychiatrists and teachers claimed had ADHD, I have not been able to find any abnormality—no disease whatsoever! " Fred A. Baughman, Jr., M.D.
I really enjoyed this episode, you touched on a lot of interesting points. Although you made it clear that you were only referring to a small number of studies, and you touched on the limitations of typing children, there’s another major confounding variable, which is delayed diagnosis (mostly with inattentive type, and also more common for girls and those socialised as girls). If the people in the study already had their diagnosis under age 12, they are a specific subset of children with ADHD: those with obvious enough (which usually means disruptive enough) symptoms for diagnosis.
Another aspect that I think had a brief mention but not extensive discussion is the emotional impact of ADHD. A major symptom that’s really only just starting to receive attention is rejection sensitive dysphoria, where the slightest negative feedback (real or imagined) can send you into a tailspin. Additude magazine (which also has an extensive website and podcasts/webinars) has a tonne of useful information, including on RSD. Other aspects beyond inability to sit still and/or concentrate include different sensory needs, and for some people inability to get motivated even for something they enjoy.
My personal experience: I’m an INFJ woman, diagnosed with inattentive ADHD in my late 30s. I spent most of school reading a book under my desk, but still excelling when I was interested in the subject. While I was going through my diagnosis, one of the things that helped me stay calm was ‘if a psychiatrist doesn’t think I have ADHD, at least being an INFJ explains the sensory overload and emotional sensitivity’. Fortunately my psychiatrist, who takes a very holistic view, agreed with my suspicions, and the thing that convinced him was when I told him ’I’ve got everything under control, I’m achieving what I want to in my life, but it’s emotionally exhausting in a way that I don’t think is normal, and that is affecting my ability to connect with people the way I want to’.
I think that ADHD is a very heterogeneous condition, even within the subtypes, and as such it interplays with different personality types in different (and sometimes surprising) ways. I also note that there is a genetic component to ADHD, moreso than personality (IIRC). So while it’s interesting and useful to look at the correlations, they’re never going to show the full picture — which you acknowledged in the podcast. Thank you again for covering the topic!
THIS!!! I am the exact name. Strong ENFJ, with consistent results taken twice with at least 7 years in between. Great/behaved kid, great grades (mostly) in school, and could charm my way out of anything.
I am not particularly hyperactive externally as it’s often described, but very hyperactive inside my brain. I struggle with the attentive and hyperactive definitions because I feel neither fully encompasses the ADHD experience.
I am particularly curious as to how so many ADHD-having adults report as INFJ. I find that P stereotypical behaviors reflect ADHD actions, but that our true type/true preference may still be J – wanting order, structure, linear thinking.
Also found this study somewhat interesting:
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/335474291_A_Balanced_Approach_to_ADHD_and_Personality_Assessment_A_Jungian_Model
Hello, I am an ENTJ women with ADHD. I am only 16 but have been intrested in personal growth and MBTI for about 3 years ish. My younger sister is an ENTP and she has ADD. We are both homeschooled partly because of our dignoses. My dad is an ISTJ and he has ADHD. My mother does not have a nerological disorder but used to be a teacher and has dealt with the many struggles invovled with that. I have a good friend who is an INTP who also has ADHD.
I really enjoyed this podcast. I have been looking for something like this from you guys and Im so glad it is finally here. This podcast really struck a chord with me. As always you guys were very insightful. Your work is greatly appreciated.
As a person with ADD and ESTJ preferences this made me feel extra special. Lol.