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In this episode, Joel and Antonia talk about developing intuition as an INFP, INTP, ENFJ, or ENTJ.

In this podcast you’ll find:

  • Car Model article
  • Car Model Podcast
  • Why We Resist Developing The Co-Pilot In Our Personality
  • We gravitate toward our driver and marginalize our copilot
  • If we are introverts, our copilot is extraverted
  • If we are extraverts, our copilot is introverted
  • INPs copilot is Extraverted Intuition (Ne) – “Exploration”
  • ENJs copilot is Introverted Intuition (Ni) – “Perspectives”
  • Intuition is a perceiving process, which means you use this function to take in info
  • What could be happening behind the curtain?
  • What is the pattern of the things I am observing?
  • Ni vs. Ne podcast
  • These types lead with a judging function, so they are going to have a proclivity to be more decisive or understand how they feel or think about things
  • Perceiving processes force us to open up our perception and take in more info
  • INPs and ENJs should use their intuitive processes to round out the decision-making functions they lead with
  • INTP & INFP
    • INPs struggle with their copilot because it forces them to take in more territory.
    • If you are leading with Introverted Feeling (INFP), it can take a long time to determine the right decision.
    • It relates to identity
    • For INTPs, it also takes a long time to determine the good data vs. the bad data, because the bad data may be related to info that we absorbed from childhood.
    • INPs can use Extraverted Intuition (Ne) when they are having to problem solve.
    • The real gifts of Ne come from exploring.
    • Getting outside your comfort zone.
    • Always looking for the new experience.
    • This type of exploration takes a metric ton of energy and can seem intimidating to the INP.
    • INPs know how they think or feel about things, but they have to generate a lot of energy to use Exploration.
    • Exploration burns the most resource.
    • It takes awhile to get into it, but once you are using it you consume energy because you are breaking new ground.
    • Ne is not a rational function.
    • Sometimes it doesn’t make sense.
    • And it has lots of false starts.
    • Exploration does not allow you to manage your image as much as you may want.
    • The things you do may look unstable to others.
    • Your credibility may even take a hit or two.
    • Extraverted Intuition is probably the most optimistic function of all eight cognitive functions.
    • Joie de vivre
    • You will burn out the self-consciousness and discover extraordinary freedom.
    • INTX Unleashed – INTP gained “Bouncy” energy.
    • INTPs who crave connection can find it through their Copilot.
    • Online research can give you a tiny hit of Ne, but it is only a snack – not a meal.
    • Online research allows you censor the info that comes in, but if you are in a real situation with info coming in that you can’t deny it is much harder to ignore the data.
    • Resonance vs calibration
    • Because INPs lead with a judging function, they tend to pre-calibrate the info they absorb.
    • Extraverted Intuition post calibrates though.
    • INPs need to speed up to keep pace with Ne.
    • Turn off the calibration and act rapidly.
    • Real-time adjustment & absorption of data.
    • This will require immense amounts of energy, but it prevents you from pre-calibrating and keeps you open to new data.
    • Post-calibration can happen in tertiary – Introverted Sensing (Si) “Memory”
    • When you are doing online research, you are collecting data in your Si process and doing enough post-processing with the info to involve Intuition more passively.
    • This is the opposite frame you want to come from because it uses Memory as the data gathering mechanism and lets Exploration help out.
    • Lead with Exploration and get real-world experiences, then use Memory as a tool to support Ne.
    • Ne is an extraverted process, so you have to get out in the real world.
    • What is uncomfortable to one INP may be easy for another.
    • Every INP is going to be different.
    • They need to head towards discomfort.
    • Discomfort should be your guiding light.
    • Then the discomfort becomes comfortable.
    • Being out of your comfort zone becomes your new comfort zone.
    • Throw yourself in and post calibrate.
    • Sometimes you may overdo it. Other times you may under do it.
    • Calibrate after – always.
    • Image management is your enemy as you develop your Copilot.
    • Is the life you built providing you the opportunity to grow?
    • You may need to go somewhere else to exercise your Intuitive Copilot.
    • One of the things you need when practicing Exploration is Joy. It is a big piece for providing the stamina you need to exercise Ne.
    • Exercise:
    • Set an alarm for one minute.
    • Lay down in bed like you are going to sleep.
    • When the one minute alarm sounds, jump out of bed with enthusiasm and put a big beaming smile on your face.
    • Throw your shoulders back. Open your arms and take a big prayer of gratitude out to the universe (or your divinity of choice).
    • Repeat this exercise again and again (7-10x), until you create the muscle memory that ritualizes how you get out of bed every morning.
    • This will help you generate energy to make getting into your copilot easier.
    • Work on strategies to ritualize your morning routine: drink a glass of water, journal, meditate, exercise, etc.
    • The ritual will set you on the right trajectory for the day
    • This exercise will calm down your 10 yr old Memory process and open you to opportunities for using your Exploration process.
    • Take a different route to work
    • Eat a different kind of food
    • Pick a new part of your city or country and get lost
  • ENJs – ENTJ & ENFJ
    • Copilot is Introverted Intuition (Ni) – “Perspectives”
    • Perspectives has spent so much time watching its mind form patterns that it sees the patterns in its own mind and the patterns in other people’s minds.
    • We call it Perspectives because it is excellent for understanding other people’s perspective.
    • ENJs rely on this for problem-solving, but not as much as they should.
    • Ni encroaches on ENJs by forcing them to slow down.
    • This can be uncomfortable for action-oriented ENJs.
    • ENJs love to impose order on a chaotic world. Ni is very free and chaotic. We cannot impose order on the inner world of Ni.
    • ENJs love to close loops.
    • Ni gets in the way of closing loops because it injects a massive amount of data which complicates things.
    • Introverted Intuition helps the ENJ to close better loops.
    • Otherwise, how do you know you are closing loops in the right way?
    • ENJs driver function looks for weaknesses in systems – organic and inorganic.
    • Stress points
    • Needs going unmet
    • Ni forces the ENJ to go inside their mind and determine stress points and unmet needs within the ENJ.
    • Sit with yourself and look at how your mind is set up.
    • Extraverted Thinking (ENTJ Driver) – once it makes a decision it creates a neurological superhighway. Set it and forget it.
    • Ni adds long game data.
    • Extraverted Feeling (ENFJ Driver) believes their agenda is the best agenda. If they question themselves, they may find that they don’t have everyone’s best interest at heart.
    • If you have ideas that are deemed dangerous, Perspectives does its own censoring.
    • Our minds may want to go to places we have blocked out.
    • The conclusions that your mind may reach when you explore the scary bits may turn your life upside down.
    • ENJs will have more energy than INPs.
    • ENJs are good at getting things done and getting into action.
    • ENJs may struggle with monkey mind in an attempt to get everything accomplished.
    • Harness that energy. Keep it centered instead of dispersed.
    • Exercising Introverted Intuition requires you to sit still, get quiet, and go inside your mind.
    • Perspectives gives the ENJ the ability to see the eventuality, or long term results, for the things they are doing.
    • Longer timelines.
    • Ask questions like “To what end?”
    • Broaden categories you apply to people.
    • Some of the ENJs perspectiving may be serving their own agendas or end games.
    • You may have specific definitions of what an A player is.
    • Or what makes up a healthy man or woman.
    • You may have narrow definitions you have culled from jumping into other people’s perspective for a short time then coming back to your mind with assumptions based on limited data.
    • When you can the thoughts in and see others in 3D, you will improve your compassion and skill level for talent scouting.
    • Exercise:
    • Take an hour a day and choose a quote you can explore profoundly, like Carl Sagan’s, “We are a way for the universe to know itself.”
    • Go to a quiet place. Maybe even dark. Close your eyes, reduce sensory input.
    • Ruminate on that quote for an hour.
    • When your to-do list pops up, bring your mind back to the quote.
    • After an hour, take out a piece of paper and write down some of the insights you had.
    • This exercise will start training your mind to develop that Ni process.
    • Wander the garden of your mind.
    • Let go of self-censorship.
    • Stop yourself from censoring your mind and let it go where it wants to go.
    • It will likely be uncomfortable.
    • You may have outsourced a part of your life to others.
    • You may not be in control like you think you are.
    • Once you can explore the parts of your mind you keep hidden you take real control of your life.
    • Stop making big leaps/assumptions with limited info.
    • ENJs tertiary Extraverted Sensing (Se) needs to be a servant to Introverted Intuition (Ni).
    • If you make Ni a servant to Se, you will shorten the timelines of your speculations.
    • Exercising Ni on a daily basis will make it more available to you throughout the day, so your observations are more profound.
  • INTP & INFP:
    • Copilot Ne
    • Generate lots of energy
    • Speed up
    • Seek out Freedom of experience
  • ENTJ & ENFJ
    • Copilot Ni
    • Slow down
    • Harness energy
    • Sit with it.
    • Wander the garden of your mind and sit with uncomfortable thoughts
  • INPs might like what ENJs have to do and vice versa
  • But it won’t be developing their Copilot
  • Developing the Copilot in the right way changes your life – and it may be painful to make the changes that are necessary.
  • The way out is through
  • When you get to the other side, the changes you make are more authentically you.
  • The fruit at the end of all of this is well worth it.
  • The application of these principles is unique and individualized.
  • How are you using some of these principles to move the needle in your life?

 In this episode, Joel and Antonia talk about developing intuition as an INFP, INTP, ENFJ, or ENTJ.  #MBTI #myersbriggs #ENFJ #ENTJ #INFP #INTP

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39 comments

  • Steve
    • Steve
    • June 11, 2018 at 6:41 am

    This podcast was really revelatory for me. I think what made it so valuable was the discussion around the edges. What it is, what its not, and how we (INFPs in my case) can fool ourselves with faux-intuition. I’d heard a lot in other PH pods about how important it was to exercise the co-pilot, and even heard examples in the premium personality description (really good). And frankly I’d been soaking up as much intel as I could (basically an expression of the ‘internet research’ Antonia cracks down on in this episode). But this was really what I needed.

    But, it is SO HARD. And I’m learning that the amount of resistance I have to exercising my Fi is actually an indication about how much it could potentially be a beneficial experience.

    Thanks guys, you are amazing.

  • Kathryn Lilly
    • Kathryn Lilly
    • June 9, 2018 at 9:29 pm

    Female 45 year old ENFJ hell bent on developing my copilot. I ruminated on the idea “The Only Out is Through”. I wrote it at the top of a sheet of paper to stay focused and jotted down my thoughts “journal style” to stay focused. Lasted 45 mins and 3 full pages written. My question is, does this count since I was writing as I went along? Is journaling different than rumination?

  • Kris
    • Kris
    • June 9, 2018 at 2:52 am

    After a second listen, I have to admit that I’m a bit conflicted about this podcast.

    On one hand: I spent huge chunks of the INXP section reminding myself to actually pay attention despite part of my brain going “nope, nope, can’t do that, it feels awful just thinking about doing that, how am I supposed to make myself do this when it feels so…off?” The suggestion of diving into things without ruminating over them, of deciding quickly to try and outrun the urge to make a judgment call beforehand, of dealing with the outside world on the fly? I shuddered the first time I heard it.

    On the other hand: I suppose I can stop wondering, “Am I sure I’m an INFP?” now. :)
    (Granted, I’ve also started reading up on the Enneagram recently, and I suspect that I’m a 9…so it’s possible that my brain is throwing out kneejerk “that sounds too different and dangerous for my tastes, let’s never talk about this again” responses for that reason instead.)

    Even with that said, I’m doing things now that I could never have imagined doing in my teens. The sheer amount of time I spend directly interacting with people for work would have gotten disbelieving laughs from my childhood self. And it’s not all effort with nothing to show for it; I like what I do, and if I hadn’t been pushed out of my shell some, I would have missed out. (I’m starting to wonder if my father has Exploration as his driver, with all the advice to stay out of ruts and deal with the “real world” I got as a child…) So on one level, I think you’re right. It’s just very hard not to dig my heels in and follow that resistance reflex.

    Examples:
    “I deal with strangers at work all the time! You mean I have to do more or it doesn’t count?”
    “Cheerful…about waking up? Hah! That’s not me, I’ve never been a morning person.”
    “I don’t have time to go somewhere else and be unreliable and weird where no one can see me. I’m too old for that kind of thing anyway, right? Even if I do it on vacation, what if someone finds out, or something bad happens, or I hate it?” “…What if I don’t hate it? I can’t afford, emotionally or financially, to rock the boat too much. Can I?”
    “Ugh, I don’t like getting lost, it makes me feel like a failure…I like staying where I have landmarks.”
    “But, if online research doesn’t count, how will I have time/energy for this and my hobbies? I don’t want to stop having solo hobbies, they motivate me when getting up and dealing with people is the last thing I feel like doing.”
    “If I do go out there and do new things, and my identity shifts to deal with the new knowledge…won’t that make me a hypocrite, for building an identity and some self esteem around the things I thought I wasn’t? That’s scary on its own.”

    So, I suppose I don’t have a positive example here? But at least anyone else feeling this way doesn’t have to feel alone. 34 here and struggling to seriously try implementing the ideas, rather than focusing on other things until I forget these challenges.

  • Crystal
    • Crystal
    • June 5, 2018 at 4:00 am

    Yep, id say this is it! I’m a female INFP and in my opinion, this hit the nail on the head.

    I have social anxiety and somewhere along the line I learned that it was important I don’t indulge it. A couple years ago I got a job as a lab assistant for the technical program I’d recently graduated from. I had to help people I didn’t know… . Groups of people would stare at me while waiting for my awkwardness to subside so that I could answer their questions. There were days I would break down…days I’d sweat profusely or times when I’d shake uncontrollably. I kept up with it and eventually found that all the interactions with people and jumping from new problem to new problem was actually working for me. It ended up being the best time of my life. The instructor thought it was so funny, as just a few years prior when I attended the program I was the quiet girl who never spoke and always had her headphones on. Now I was the bubbly, talkative goofball that loved everyone.

    It makes a huuuuge difference in your life. I work in a job now that still gives me many opportunities to flex my Ne, but I find that I miss the rush that I got from all that social interaction when I was a lab assistant.

    I have a different take on myself now. I’m much more competent than I once believed. I’m strong, flexible and capable. I’ve been letting myself indulge my SA a bit too often lately and I’m so glad I listened to this podcast. Honestly, this is the best advice anyone could give you.

  • Ana
    • Ana
    • June 2, 2018 at 1:28 pm

    Hey !

    I have the same problem. I am an INFP who tried to develop my copilot and write regularly and I have found out that I can’t do both at the same time. Going out of my comfort zone just takes way too much energy which means that I don’t have anything left for writing. I kind of gave up developing my copilot because of that. Plus, althought I tried for three years to develop my copilot I haven’t been really succesful. It is frustrating. Now I wonder, should I invest time in my passion or chase discomfort hoping that somehow I will grow ?

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