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In this episode, Joel and Antonia talk Antonia’s dark night of the soul experience and how personality type is relevant.
In this podcast you’ll find:
- Why is Antonia at a loss for words?
- Antonia’s Dark Night of the Soul.
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What happens when you can’t see the light at the end of the tunnel?
- What a Dark Night of the Soul means.
- Finding guidance when you can’t see for yourself.
- Having strength to share your Introverted Feeling (Authenticity) experience.
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Discovering what is impacting you.
- What it means to be sensitive to energy.
- How energetic self-care lets you thrive.
- The power and struggle of self-discipline.
- How your type affects your environment, and how your environment affects you.
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When depression can be a door to open spiritual awakening.
- TedX talk from Dr. Lisa Miller that helps us see the spiritual awakening available.
- When people show up to help you along the way.
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How the Enneagram and Dr. Beatrice Chestnut and Uranio Paes help Antonia.
- What the Enneagram symbol means outside of a personality lens.
- The Enneagram map.
- The different Enneagram phases of life.
- The unconsciousness of Enneagram phase 9 and being stuck.
- How experiences shock us into change.
- Why Enneagram phase 4 and 5 are associated with a Dark Night of the Soul.
- Ways you can recognize that you can truly grow.
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What is your true essence?
- Why your identity is not your thoughts.
- What happens when you let your thoughts go?
- Who are you without your emotions?
- Who are you at the core of your being?
- Ways to evaluate the value of going through a Dark Night of the Soul.
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Dr. Dario Nardi’s personality work on a deeper, spiritual level.
- Taking detours in life.
- Not relying on our more talented cognitive functions.
- What integration of our lower cognitive functions really means.
- The Magic Diamond book.
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Joel’s tips for navigating your energy and self-care:
- Why action is so vital.
- Where to find balance.
- How letting go helps.
- What is most important for you to know.
- What acceptance does for you when you’re struggling.
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Antonia, I think your articulation was especially clean on this one, it was a joy to listen to. You are an inspiration, Joel too of course.
Personally, I believe I have what you are going through somewhere ahead of me. Part of me worries that maybe I’ll never get to experience anything like that. At least anything as powerful as that. With Si driver, I’m always mulling on things, accepting circumstances and processing whatever comes. Reading previous comments I wonder if I’m unable to feel my inner shifts as strongly as most of this community. My shifts seem to happen so evenly and gradually that I barely notice them. Maybe it’s a sensor thing (and also a culture thing). Interestingly, as I develop I find it harder and harder to get to the dark places of my mind (I used to live there… Si-Fi loop apparently). And we all know one needs to go there from time to time.
Maybe my path is less dramatic. But whatever it is, I feel ready for it thanks to the many years of exposing myself on PH -content. So many thanks for the work you do. I hope you are able to keep it up, but also feel free to renew your company as you see fit. You’ll have my support.
Depression is real, but so subjective it can be misunderstood. Listening to Antonia, a person who is knowledgeable about the specific causes and in-touch with the real-life effects, makes this episode better than good.
It’s transcendent.
Please bookmark this podcast as a reference for people going through “down times”.
Dear Antonia and Joel,
This was one of your most powerful talks for me. Your openness and honesty has a deep and true and inspirational impact. Much of what you’re going through, Antonia, is familiar to me, and it’s encouraging to hear you speak about it.
I don’t feel you’ve ‘lost’ the ability to articulate, rather it feels like another layer of felt-introspection is added to it and, maybe like you said, getting some space. That’s really inspiring.
Thanks a lot for deciding to share :-)
Antonia sending love, courage and the ability to let go and be present to the fullness of this experience (which of course includes at times saying life is f-ing hard at the moment and I see no way out).
Personally, the more raw/honest episodes have always been my favourites :)
As I was listening all I could think about was Jung’s thought on “The two halves of life” here’s a beautiful, relevant quote on the subject from Jung.
One cannot live the afternoon of life according to the program of life’s morning; for what was great in the morning will be of little importance in the evening, and what in the morning was true will at evening become a lie. —C. G. Jung
Reference & article
https://cac.org/two-halves-life-2015-10-12/
I spent the best part of 10 years in some version of this space (Richard Rohr calls it “the descent journey” feeling I was walking around in the dark and it now makes up the foundation of my Coaching/Counselling practice.
Hello Antonia,
You and Joel have done a great episode… again! The way you describe the process you’re experiencing and articulate it with your knowledge on personality type is truly brilliant.
I just want to share this resource which might confirm some of the wisdom you’ve certainly accessed by yourself by now. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAlrKsMf9C4. There are certainly other comparable resources out there. I’ve stumbled upon it recently, long after I stagnated in the phase you’re currently at.
It does not really matter if those who haven’t gone through this kind of process find it weird. My take is that such an experience is not reproducible in a lab and cannot be coined as scientific although many have actually gone through it.
I also agree that energetic hygiene routine is essential. At some point, you might feel the need for an energetic cleansing, performed by a qualified and trusted shaman or medium. Notwithstanding how ‘woo woo’ it may sound, the right person will present themselves in the right time.
Gaining clarity is ultimately one of the outcomes after reaching the other side, that’s true.
And please do let us (the PH community) know how this unfolds for you.
I hope you and readers will be magnanimous on this somewhat rambling comment typed while listening to the episode at the same time, coming from a once very rational infj living in a cartesian country :)