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In this episode, Joel and Antonia talk about the frustration that some can face when they are either mistyped or can’t find their best fit type and the benefits of going through this journey.

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In this podcast you’ll find:

  • The value in starting your discovery journey with the wrong best-fit type.
    • How does it feel when you find your best-fit personality type?
    • Why this journey puts the Myers-Briggs® system in its proper role.
  • Why we may relate to functions that are not in our stack.
  • How landing on your best-fit type can become conflated with your ability to understand personality types as a system.
    • Why this can feel like an ego hit to someone within the type community.
    • The signaling we project when attempting to correct another person’s type.
  • What’s a helpful way to reframe this topic if you don’t know, or are re-examining your best-fit type?
  • Why type-specific growth advice can still be helpful – even if you turn out not to be that type.
  • Why we can sometimes be unconsciously drawn to the “thrashing” phase of our type journey.
  • What makes it so difficult to land on your best-fit type in the first place?
    • A note on the intuitive bias.
    • The role stereotypes play into our ability to understand the opposite preferences.
  • “Falling in love with falling in love” – why we can be tempted to stay in the exploration stage of our type journey.
  • What happens when we serve ”type”, rather than use it as a tool to serve us?
    • What does a healthy and rewarding relationship with type look like?
  • A note to those feeling discouraged in the discovery part of their type journey.

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13 comments

  • William (Ixxx)
    • William (Ixxx)
    • November 17, 2021 at 4:16 pm

    Wow, this one really hit home, and I’ll admit it stung my ego just a tiny bit.

    I am currently struggling to find my MB type, as I mentioned the last time I commented. In that comment, I said something like “I want to know so that I can figure out which function is my co-pilot,” because I wanted to grow there.

    Then I heard Joel mention that sometimes, some people may use that lack of knowledge as a sub-conscious excuse for stalling growth. I heard that, and my jaw almost dropped — that’s totally what I’m doing!

    Whether my co-pilot function is Ne or Fe, or some other extraverted function, it is an external-world aspect that provides a really high-leverage point for me. I’m avoiding trying to set up healthy personal boundaries, to explore possibilities and novelties, etc., because I’m afraid I’ll be going after “the wrong thing” and screw something up in some way or another.

    So thank you very much for the accidental benefit you gave me through the discussion that followed. Thanks to one of your Profiler Training students, I may be able to discover my type sometime soon, but in the meantime, I now have a slightly more calibrated perspective on personal growth that I will happily attempt to use for my benefit.

    Again, thank you. As always, looking forward to hearing your next podcast! :)

    -William

  • Justine G
    • Justine G
    • November 16, 2021 at 10:35 pm

    Thanks again Guys,

    I’ve considered all the types and functions, and either none of them are particuarly close to a ‘tailored’ fit, or the descriptions are all over-focused on particular ‘flavours’ or manifestations of that type or function. Okay admittedly I haven’t considered some of them for very long, like ESTP for example. But I only have to see words like ‘fast’, ‘kinesthetic’, ‘present-focused’ etc. to know I am very likely looking in the wrong department. And I think I actually want to be ‘revealed’ as an ENTJ as I would probably never stop laughing.

    The only one I’ll regularly return to is INFP, partly because I’ve always been fascinated as to why a lot of people have ‘apparently’ fixed personalities, and why be like this rather than that, whereas I have a ‘glistening’ ideal of combining traits that shouldn’t go together. There’s other stuff that it doesn’t seem to fit though.

  • IxTx?
    • IxTx?
    • November 16, 2021 at 10:16 pm

    Having the types on the podcast telling about themselves is something I have imagined for a long time would be an excellent idea. And now it’s becoming reality. Great!

    I was actually surprised to “WTF”-levels when you discussed the reasons behind correcting (or “correcting”) people mistyping themselves or others. I haven’t been doing that, as I don’t see myself as knowing enough to reliably do so, but if I were to, it would have nothing whatsoever to do with either bad intent or whatever your phrasing was, or trying to show my knowledge or “status”.
    I had not even thought of those things as even being a possible reason for doing so. If I ever were to, it would be for correcting a piece of misinformation, which would otherwise be dangerous in two ways:
    1: Causing people to mistype themselves by using it as a comparison to themselves, seeing that they are the same type as the other person, but the other person is mistyped, and hence they become mistyped.
    2: Propagating the misinformation by then claiming they are that type, while describing their actual type, which continues feeding into point 1 in a vicious circle.

    I believe this is already a big problem, and a reason I’ve been having trouble finding my type.
    It may not be a problem to use an unsure type for certain applications, in your case for personal growth, but it’s a huge problem to communicate it as certain when it’s not.

    (And yes, I know that there is nothing absolutely certain when it comes to type, but 97.5, or at the very least 95% should probably be the requirement. Otherwise one should only use statements like “I think”, “I’m not entirely sure, but”, etc.)

    To finish, I just want to remind you again that I’m not your main intended audience, I’m not looking for personal development. To use your hammer analogy, I neither want to collect them nor drive nails with them, but… perhaps use them to bang on something to make noise? I don’t know.
    What I want to do with understanding my own type anyway, is not to change myself, but rather change (or verify that I shouldn’t change) things around me in my life to better suit me, and avoid what would suit me worse.
    Understanding type in general is good when communicating with others.

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